this rootless Python script rips Windows Recall’s screenshots and SQLite database of OCRed text and allows you to search them.

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    30 days ago

    Iirc chrome stores your local cookies/session in a place malware could also attack. Probably the same idea for other browsers.

    I’m not sure I fully understand the issue here. If we’re ok with that info being trivially retrievable by a bad actor, why isn’t this ok?

    Like I get you may not like it, and it’s a target, but there are already lots of targets that have gotten a pass based on user permissions. Is it just the breadth of potential info? With the cookies you could potentially log into someone’s bank account.

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      30 days ago

      browser data is a potential liability, sure, but you have tools to manage it. you can delete pages or entire websites, you can use private windows, you can purge history older than 6 months or something like that, and at least a few browsers have a “forget” button that wipes out the last two hours of history. similar deals with cookies and other data, and we’ve collectively decided the benefit of having browser data is worth the risk.

      not so here. Recall is a record of everything you’ve ever done on your PC. you can’t selectively delete things like you can with browser history, the app and website exclusion is only as good as whatever Recall is using to detect apps and websites, and you can’t redact sensitive info after the fact. people are generally okay with browser history and data because they know they have fine-grained controls to manage it, controls Recall doesn’t have

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        29 days ago

        So if they had a ui with buttons to ‘pause for X length (could be forever)’, buttons to 'forget last X length (once again could be forever), but everything else stayed the same, would it be acceptable?

        Like I’m genuinely curious here.

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          29 days ago

          When you go on the internet you are accessing content on other people’s computers. You are saying, “I want such and such document”. There’s an inherent lack of privacy in browsing the internet. You can try to be private about it, but ultimately you’re not changing that you’re requesting data from other people’s computers and sending them data.

          When you are doing something else on your PC besides browsing the web, Recall is still taking screenshots and tracking you. What apps you use, pictures you view, and many other things that might be completely offline and you don’t necessarily want a history of stored on your PC, with screenshots and searchable summaries. Do you want each and every one of your fap sessions recorded? Why would you want any of your offline activity recorded?

          What if you forget to pause this feature and someone finds these screenshots? Who cares, right? What if your a closeted gay teen living in a conservative country and your family finds the history?

          Then there are people who don’t understand computers using offline business software for accounting, or whatever, and even if they store their data files on an encrypted drive or something, Recall is taking screenshots of everything they do. If they don’t even know its happening, their PC could have years of data that could be stollen from them at any point in the future. Even if they never open those encrypted files again. Obviously, if their computer is pwned, then the hackers could just take the enencrypted files when they’re next accessed, but Recall snapshots everything all the time, even if you delete it.

          Edit a self nude photo on your PC and forget to turn off Recall, and then layer decide to delete the photo… Too bad, Recall still has it.

          It’s a feature that’s… ok if you want it, but it should not be part of the operating system, and it definitely shouldn’t be opt-out. It should be an app that you install with deliberate purpose if and only if you want itand understand the security and privacy risks.

          Microsoft instead wants to install it by default and probably turn it on by default. Even if it ends up being opt-in, MS has a long history of asking people to enable features in misleading ways. And the vast majority of Windows users don’t understand computers!

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    Wow, it’s pretty wild they didn’t even attempt to encrypt or protect this data, even if it is local to your machine. What a treasure trove for malware to sift through.

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        23 days ago

        Is it? I skimmed the GitHub source code and couldn’t see anything involving encryption, but it’s totally possible I missed something. Perhaps just accessing the database from python is enough to decrypt it.

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    1 month ago

    In a hilarious and infuriating side note, MS is obviously doing their absolute best to blame-shift here.

    It’s code. It’s a project someone made to graphically illustrate and demonstrate, in the wild, why the entire concept of MS Recall is an absolutely awful, foundationally-flawed idea. It is not a “hacker tool”. The MS c-suite and board members are just pissed that stock go down as a result of their stupidity, and they’re looking for people to blame who aren’t themselves.

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      29 days ago

      Where is the blame shifting? The article says they made no comment and the only MS quotes are just random pr feature blurbs

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        29 days ago

        Dude the headline:

        this hacker tool

        It’s absolutely not a “hacker tool”. It’s a proof of concept. It’s just code. The author and/or editor is leaning on ingrained negative kneejerk reactions from less knowledgeable members of the general public towards the term “hacker”.

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      29 days ago

      MS is obviously doing their absolute best to blame-shift here

      There is not a single word in that article that says anything about blame shifting. That title was written by wired.com