The family of Noa Argamani is sharing harrowing footage of her abduction in southern Israel earlier today.
The video shows her being taken away on the back of a motorcycle by Hamas terrorists as she screams “don’t kill me” and stretches her arms out to her boyfriend, Avi Natan, who is also being held by Hamas operatives. They were both attending a festival in the south.
Other footage shows Argamani being held in Gaza sipping from a cup of water.
They even kidnapped germans. Any% loose all support worldwide.
They even killed them - and paraded a dead woman’s naked body around
The murdering of foreign civilians exposes the Hamas claims of only targeting „occupiers“ as a lie. They went on a murdering spree.
I agree with you, this will cost them a lot of international support.
Thing is, I don’t think it will cost them support from anyone who’s still actually supporting them. These terrorists operate with the stated goal of provoking a war between islam and the entire western world and forcing moderate Muslims in western or westernized states to choose a side.
They never say she was dead. Am I missing something?
Being dead is already implied when they say „the body of a woman“. If you are talking about a living woman, you refer to them as „a woman“.
It could be an unconscious body.
That wouldn’t be a body. A body is a corpse.
They would just say an unconscious woman if she were still alive.
Fair enough. I assumed her state was unknown, but I didn’t watch the video. So I was, in fact, missing something.
Yeah of course they are blurring an unconscious person out of a video like that.
Yeah why was she naked?! This is still bad, you know this right?
Probably raped.
Wait did you think Hamas didn’t consider the Israelis as the “occupiers”?? Then who?
Never ever thought I would end up defending Israel like that, but to your question:
Hamas constantly claims that they do not target Israeli civilians, which is, by now, evidently a lie.
Wut? Source?
Hamas decided Israeli civilians were fair game in the mid 90’s after a jewish extremist shot up a mosque
If you just woke up from a 30 year coma please read up before defending any side here
They didn’t know she was German, but yea that quickly wrapped up a lot of support I had for Palestine
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15
It’s important to remember how we got here
As if 2007 was the start of issues.
The start of the issue was when Europeans wanted Jewish people out of Europe after WW2 so they stole a shit ton of land that’s important to three different religions from the Palestinians and called it Israel…
Then Israel expanding over the decades obviously didn’t help
The start of the issue was when Europeans wanted Jewish people out of Europe after WW2 so they stole a shit ton of land that’s important to three different religions from the Palestinians and called it Israel…
That’s not what happened. There was a strong desire for a Jewish state in Palestine for hundreds of years, in the beginning of the 20th century this was accelerated through the British mandate and immigration. The real story is way more complex and your representation of it is not only wrong but also negates the agency the Jewish population living there for centuries had in creating the Jewish state.
Of course the horrors of the Holocaust had part in the decision but it was not because “Europeans wanted Jews out”
Like I said the real history is waaaaay more complex, I suggest you read up on it - the
is a got starting point.
Edit: link didn’t post for some reason - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
There was a strong desire for a Jewish state in Palestine
Unfortunately a population had been living there for thousands of years…
And they weren’t stoked at being forced out at gunpoint 70 years ago.
If that was too long ago that they don’t have a claim, why was a much older one good enough to found Israel?
Hell, the Jewish texts said they moved there after Egypt, why weren’t they given Egypt? Why pick a random place some of their ancestors may have moved to that already had people living there at the time?
The formation of Israel and Pakistan was just a bunch of Europeans deciding religious segregation would be a good thing. It obviously wasn’t and there’s no reason to keep trying it. Religious ethnostates are not a good plan.
And as long as they exist (especially when one gets a mutual holy land) these wars will keep happening
Do you think the creation of Israel and Pakistan were decided by ‘a bunch of Europeans’ without any input from the jewish, muslims or hindus? I guess you need to read up some history first if you want to discuss these issues
I love how you got downvoted for posting hrw
In the context of his post, the hrw link is just whataboutism -> „but what about Israel“- and you can fuck right off with that
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Woah. I don’t recall doing that
They both do it. Israel a lot more so than Palestine even. It’s hard to feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for the girl obviously. But also for the countless nameless Palestinians who suffered the same but never made the news.
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GOP: hold my beer
Americans: let’s talk about America instead for no reason.
That you fail to see the relevancy is just a personal problem, bruv.
“Me me me me me.” I don’t have problems now, but thanks for caring.
Talk about a video and not even have it on the page
Looks like the original tweet was deleted
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It’s weird how everyone is taking Israeli media’s word on all this…
The only other country’s media I’ve seen backing up these claims is India, and they’re one of the absolute bottom countries for press reliability and freedoms. Their “journalists” get thrown in jail (at best) if modi doesn’t like what they write.
Plus there was that whole thing last year where Israel killed a journalist, blamed Palestinians, and then attacked the journalists funeral…
Like maybe, just maybe, we should be waiting a second before believing everything that’s being claimed in the first 24 hours of a war…
What the fuck? There are more than enough terrible videos out to here. Both sides say this is happening. Why would anyone think otherwise?
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In general, yes, it’s a war and terrible shit happens.
But in a war every side is going to use propaganda.
Look at “the ghost of Kiev” obviously Ukraine are the good guys there, but that doesn’t mean blindly believe everything they say.
When one side starts making very specific claims with no proof, and the only countries media backing it up is one of the absolute worst countries for media reliability…
Maybe wait a day or two for facts to come out before believing every specific story.
And can you knock it off with jumping straight to personal insults?
What reason do you think Hamas has to lie about this??
Again, not saying they aren’t…
But a reason to exaggerat the numbers is pretty simple.
Israel probably won’t flatten Gaza if they think Israeli citizens are being held throughout.
Did that thought not occur to you yet?
And I have no idea why your acting like no one else is saying this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/misinformation-israel-hamas-spreading-social-media-rcna119345
Not saying they aren’t… But surely suggesting they are 🙃
If both sides in a conflict are claiming the same thing, maybe it’s not as big a conspiracy as you’re hoping it is
It’s interesting that they didn’t take her phone.
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Ah makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!
