• downpunxx@fedia.io
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    when push comes to shove, local government will either do the right thing (like this), or put their cities on a ticking clock to disaster and implosion. people need places to live. workers need to live where the work is. if only tourists are able to afford to stay in cities, those places will die.

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      5 months ago

      And normal housing is not a hotel. If you have people that rent a room or something and you are there you keep an eye out and make sure they behave. Can you imagine your neighboring house or appartment becoming a party flat with people that don’t care how loud they are.

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        5 months ago

        Ok I agree in theory.tyat said I rented a room when younger. In a house that has 2 other older men in the house.

        Yeah roommates suck. But I couldn’t afford the rent I pay now if they were not there. I was on a month to moth basis for contract and it was a room in a house instead of an apartment means something.

        Renting a room isn’t that bad, renting nightly is…

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          Roommates and such is fine. If it is done as a primary living space. That means you are invested in your surroundings. If you have parties constantly you piss off the neighbors and there will be trouble.

          A vacation rental filled with people that can be as loud and obnoxious as they want because tomorrow or in a few days they leave and will never see the people that actually love there ever again.

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        5 months ago

        If the aim is to curb overtourism and to fix the housing crisis then no, it’s still not fine.

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          I don’t know who you think you replied to… but I agree. More is needed.

          This is a good start. Putting hundreds if not thousands of Appartments back on the market for permanent living is good. And at the same time you increase livability in neighborhoods.

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            Ah, it was mostly to your point that renting out rooms is fine as long as it’s supervised/closely looked at. Renting out to tourists is bad in my opinion, flat out. Tourists should be lodged at dedicated buildings (hotels/hostels) and the rest should be for local populace.

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              Air BnB started for people with a spare room. Cause then it’s just small scale and supervised. Or to rent out when you yourself are on vacation… like home swapping. And I think both are fine if they are the exception.

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                5 months ago

                Evidence shows such “rules” are ripe for abuse though. Let’s keep tourists in hotels. That system worked for decades without outpricing locals.

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    It is high time governments to start taxing people progressively based on how many properties they own. I have a friend who bought 5-6 properties. That’s absolutely disgusting.

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      4 months ago

      Yup, in countries with severe housing shortages preventing post secondary students from being able to move forward with their education as they got evicted before they could graduate is unbelievably cruel.

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    Good. I own and use an apartment where the majority of the building is short term holiday rentals, and these people flout security, noise ordinance, facilities and are a general nuisance through and through.

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    The Youtube comments sections of documentaries of rent poverty in Spain usually get filled with landlords complaining about how the government is taxing them to death, and how relieving them of such taxes would be the solution. Somehow they consistently get plenty of upvotes.

    Bitch, if you were being taxed to death you would rush to try and sell those homes, and THAT’S what I want to see happen.

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      Selling property? Don’t be ridiculous!

      That might force them to change their way of life, and start contributing to society for a living.

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    Although I would like to visit Barcelona someday, I support this wholeheartedly.

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    Another means I’ve heard of is limiting apartment/home rentals to a 1 month minimum

    Maintains a minimal open door for people who actually wanna get emersed while also redirecting all but the most lucrative properties back into local residential living.

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      Nah just blanket ban that shit. Residential housing as investment objects need to die asap. If the locals want to become part of the hospitality industry they can open a hotel.

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    Too bad here in America, Land of the Free to pay up or go fuck yourself, this never happen outside of the occasional local town ordinance. The government gets paid taxes either way so they don’t care.

    Unrelated, why does that city look like it was built in SimCity using mods?

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      The district you’re referring to is called Eixample (literally “extension”), which is a planned district that was built as a large scale construction project in the 19th and 20th century to expand the city and make room for more/more modern apartments.

      Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eixample

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        5 months ago

        Which is kind of ironic seen the current problems.

        But it’s indeed incredibly beautiful.

        Lisboa has a similar but smaller and older district, built there to rebuild after an earthquake.