

The one where safety was achieved not through any real improvements to society but by threat of being thrown into an overcrowded super prison?
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The one where safety was achieved not through any real improvements to society but by threat of being thrown into an overcrowded super prison?
Lol is this a joke? You’re asking if we should RAGE? No.
My memory isn’t great but I still know that there are plenty of Trump’s political enemies left on the inside. That’s who keeps leaking information despite threats from the administration to hook them up to a polygraph.
Ok, I think you found a loophole
I feel like somebody did that when they first came out and they created some kind of ridiculous over the top penalty for doing it.
Its a bigger risk than I’m willing to take, but I would suggest if you’re going to go that route, try to get a wealthy and well connected friend to do it for you or have a good lawyer on retainer
Yeah, I am not sure but hopefully somebody has the numbers. That is usually the argument for trampling the constitution.
Hard to say how much has been actually documented bc they’ve been doing a lot of this stuff off record.
They potentially saved 30000 lives locking up 100 people for crimes committed by somebody else in a states they’ve never been to and we might not even know about it
Every time I hear that, I picture some guy stopping somebody else mid sentence when it comes on to be like “Wait, wait… you hear that? That’s me!” And then blasting it at full volume while he sings along. I feel like that’s had to have happened at least once or twice.
TBF it is a very catchy song
Somehow I missed that New Orleans had a secret partnership with Palantir for predictive policing starting around 2012 that was kind of revealed as a big scandal in 2018.
Allegedly this has nothing to do with that… Allegedly… Absolutely nothing.
That’s what they’re saying now, but apparently, an app was developed that allowed police to create a watch list of suspects, upload their picture, and use the cameras to constantly scan for the images. When they got a hit, police received a direct notification via the app
Apparently much of this wasn’t documented, but for whatever reason, the police captain decided in April to end it for the time being, so now it’s back to the company notifying police, but they want city council to pass an ordinance so they can go back to police being directly notified
https://wp.api.aclu.org/press-releases/208236
After the Washington Post began investigating this time around, city officials acknowledged the program and said they had “paused” it and that they “are in discussions with the city council” to change the city’s facial recognition technology law to permit this pervasive monitoring.
The ACLU is now urging the New Orleans City Council to launch a full investigation and reimpose a moratorium on facial recognition use until robust privacy protections, due process safeguards, and accountability measures are in place.
“Until now, no American police department has been willing to risk the massive public blowback from using such a brazen face recognition surveillance system,” said Nathan Freed Wessler, deputy director of ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. “By adopting this system–in secret, without safeguards, and at tremendous threat to our privacy and security–the City of New Orleans has crossed a thick red line. This is the stuff of authoritarian surveillance states, and has no place in American policing.”
Yeah there’s already at least one well known case. This article mentions it https://wp.api.aclu.org/press-releases/208236
The use of facial recognition technology by Project NOLA and New Orleans police raises serious concerns regarding misidentifications and the targeting of marginalized communities. Consider Randal Reid, for example. He was wrongfully arrested based on faulty Louisiana facial recognition technology, despite never having set foot in the state. The false match cost him his freedom, his dignity, and thousands of dollars in legal fees. That misidentification happened based on a still image run through a facial recognition search in an investigation; the Project NOLA real-time surveillance system supercharges the risks.
“We cannot ignore the real possibility of this tool being weaponized against marginalized communities, especially immigrants, activists, and others whose only crime is speaking out or challenging government policies. These individuals could be added to Project NOLA’s watchlist without the public’s knowledge, and with no accountability or transparency on the part of the police departments
Police use to justify stops and arrests: Alerts are sent directly to a phone app used by officers, enabling immediate stops and detentions based on unverified purported facial recognition matches.
My immediate thought was that I’m sure they would just start weaponizing them to fight back so cameras could stand their ground.
The WaPo article goes into a lot more detail: https://archive.ph/2fmW1
It seems that the cops were basically uploading images of suspects so that the cameras in the city were constantly scanning for people who were wanted (like a mug shot or an image of somebody stealing something) and then if a camera picked up a match it would send police the location of the suspect on a map.
Apparently Palantir was working with NOPD to secretly test predictive policing since 2012
The program began in 2012 as a partnership between New Orleans Police and Palantir Technologies, a data-mining firm founded with seed money from the CIA’s venture capital firm. According to interviews and documents obtained by The Verge, the initiative was essentially a predictive policing program, similar to the “heat list” in Chicago that purports to predict which people are likely drivers or victims of violence.
The partnership has been extended three times, with the third extension scheduled to expire on February 21st, 2018. The city of New Orleans and Palantir have not responded to questions about the program’s current status.
Not sure that it actually did ever expire
Or just wear a mask, saw a dude ride by me on a bike yesterday at like 11am in a skeleton zip up mask covering his whole head. Smart man.
So did they ever stop?
A few weeks ago, I realized that the person that filed a recount for the vote to continue the millage for funding for the jail was actually using an alias to file for a recount. I figured he was just some asshole that owned an str and didn’t want to pay property tax, but it’s some guy that’s run for office in Louisiana multiple times and allegedly worked with city council to expose an Entergy astroturfing event.
The guy also ran all of his failed campaigns from the bar where Project Nola seems to have first established its cameras??
Project NOLA Executive Director Bryan LaGarde said, “We’re very thankful to Tim Blake, owner of the Three Legged Dog, for hosting the Project NOLA Crime Cameras that helped the Ricou family and the DA’s Office find justice for Russell. Over the past ten years, Project NOLA Crime Cameras on the Three Legged Dog have helped the NOPD investigate a large number of major crimes that regrettably occurred in the French Quarter, leading to a large number of arrests, which has very significantly benefited public safety.”
This is part of a bunch of very insane fuckery that has been going on.
Your comment is misleading. Everyone knew Police would use project Nola cams to look for suspects after the fact. This is saying that they were actually constantly scanning for suspects, once they got a match, it would ping an officers phone so they could then have that suspects exact location.
Yeah I have my suspicions about that and who was involved in that inside job.
The governor released an EO the day before saying ICE would be using aggressive identification policies to search for individuals which I assumed meant facial recognition technology bc I have been worried about for a while without knowing the full extent of how it was being used. I actually posted a comment about the tech and the EO in the New Orleans subreddit that morning before anyone knew they escaped.
Almost like this emergency gave the governor’s state police the perfect excuse to have to partner with NOPD and start using that technology…
It’s part of a very long series of crazy shit involving the New Orleans Mayor, the DA, the Sheriff the New Orleans sanctuary city policy and the Louisiana Governor
When the governor was still state AG, he began targeting New Orleans for its sanctuary city policy, which is really the result of a federal consent decree.
The city’s mayor and DA have both been involved in their own political scandals, and both seem to have made a lot of concessions to allow Landry way too much authority in the city, including bringing in his own state police force, Troop Nola, last year.
The only person who hasn’t backed down or tried to offer concessions is the Sheriff of the jail, Susan Hutson.
The following has all seriously happened in New Orleans over the last 3 weeks:
•Sanctuary city trial: The current Louisiana AG filed charges against Hutson to force her to lift what the state argues is a sanctuary city policy, relating to a federal decree placed on NOPD by the DOJ.
The AG, a long time friend of Governor Landry, argued that New Orleans was in violation of state law created last year.
That law was written by Blake Miguez, a different long time friend of Landry and member of his Louisiana DOGE taskforce. Miguez has also been helping the Governor restructure the Louisiana board of ethics following claims of ethics board violation, which have allowed Landry the ability to appoint the majority of the members of the ethics board directly, with less oversight.
Ultimately, the federal judge still ruled that she did not believe AG Murrill had the authority to make those claims against Hutson.
It just barely passed by 2 votes. A request for a recount was filed early the next week.
•The recount request was filed under an alias by somebody who had previously run for elected office in Louisiana, and was previously involved in revealing an astroturfing scandal against the city The recount ultimately increased the number of yes votes so the millage passed by 4 votes.
The most bizarre part that I don’t know how to explain, is that the guy that revealed the astroturfing revealed it with the help of the current DA, who was a city council member at the time. He ran all of his failed campaigns from a bar where Project Nola seems to have first established its cameras??
•Thursday Governor Landry released an EO urging Louisiana law enforcement to partner with ICE
From the Office of the Governor news release Governor Jeff Landry Partners with President Donald Trump to Launch “Operation GEAUX”
•Late Thursday night/early Friday morning, 11 prisoners escape from Orleans Parish jail
•Hutson is up for re-election soon. Candidates running against her are now speaking to the press, claiming this should make her ineligible to run for re-election.
As of late yesterday, it seemed that Landry was trying to shift the blame for overcrowding in the jail and the escape to DA Jason Williams
Even though it seems pretty obvious the overcrowding was due to Troop Nola suddenly arresting a ton of people and filling the jails
Everyone knows they are potentially being monitored, this is not the same.
These were constantly scanning for faces of individuals using AI so that when they got a match, it would ping police with the exact location.
Now the Trumpian governor wants to partner with NOPD on immigration to use the cameras all over the city to constantly scan for immigrants (and probably eventually any political enemies)
That is like the weirdest attempt at an argument I’ve ever heard. Somehow we have to make even this stupid fucking discussion about trans people and bathrooms bc apparently that is all some people obsess about. JFC.
Do you let every stranger that asks to use your bathroom, use your bathroom? No.
Do you let people who are guests in your house use your bathroom? Yes.
Would a customer be the equivalent of a guest in a business? Yes.
Do you consider trans people to be humans like anyone else? Yes.
Simple. Mind fucking blown. 🤯
Omgaaaauuuuhghhd bruuuhhh, one group was shitty and wouldn’t take a firm stance against Israel bc they didn’t have a fucking backbone. They’re shitty people that need to step down. They are not essentially the same.
The group you’re comparing them to:
•has said they wanted to bomb Gaza into oblivion and build a resort.
•are currently snatching students who attended pro-palestenian protests off of U.S. streets and shipping them to detention centers hundreds of miles away, (these detention centers are located in my own state in the desolate middle of nowhere, where even lawyers are afraid to even go protest because of threats of harm or being disappeared)
•are dismantling 3 civil rights offices for getting in the way of their immigration policies, one exists to provide benefits to refugees, one that exists to investigate claims of inhumane treatment in those detention center, and the third isn’t even focused on immigration, it exists to protect civil rights and liberties for all Americans dealing with DHS agencies and had to be created after the patriot act was passed by Republicans following 9/11 and too many rights were being violated
•have repeatedly openly ignored and publicly joked about just tossing due process, which is a constitutional right that anyone in this country is supposed to be entitled to, regardless of citizenship. When asked a little over a week ago if he needed to uphold the constitution, Trump said he didn’t know. Not like a joke. He really didn’t know if that was something he would be expected to comply with as president, as long as his lawyers told him he could ignore it.
Not sure if you actually read that, but the modern Republican vs Democrat political parties have very likely been intentionally polarized and turned into what they are today because of the Heritage Foundation, in order to destroy democracy and create an oligarchy.
I am not a fan of the DNC, but again it’s blatantly false to claim the actions of shitty individuals in the DNC are representative of all liberal values. Calling them slightly more benevolent when in power is either an extremely misinformed opinion or a blatant attempt to spread disinformation.
Over the last 4 months (starting literally on Jan 21) I have personally watched the polarized GOP take a literal sledgehammer to publicly funded programs in science and healthcare that (while imperfect) did an extraordinary amount of good for everyday Americans. The amount of damage done to individuals in my state who were dependent on Medicaid (some were patients in the free clinic where I volunteer and some were my own family members) is appalling and inexcusable.
I hope anyone that reads your comment will not be misinformed. I’m sorry if it wasn’t your intention, but (even putting aside losing my own job in science) this is something I’ve watched unnecessarily hurt so many people around me, as healthcare systems begin to ramp down acceptance of Medicaid in preparation for cuts that the Republicans said over and over weren’t going to happen. That was bullshit, and your description, is bullshit.
An imperfect system of very basic benefits is being made even worse in order to justify a tax cut (in addition to the billions that were already stolen via “DOGE” savings) for people who already take so much, and don’t contribute their fair share to society while leeching off corporate welfare and accusing people relying on those benefits of being the leeches. “Slightly more benevolent,” is an ignorant and dangerous way to describe imperfect but expanded access to healthcare vs the the passive aggressive genocide of undesirable populations through Mediciad cuts that are only necessary to benefit the wealthy who have taken so much more than what they have contributed.
Taken from her family just before midnight and thrown into a prison for speaking out against an authoritarian POS.