Very nice 👌 I hope we will see more applications for these protocols as time passes.

The only reason to ever go beyond warp 10 confirmed 👌😜

I can’t decide who would win - the OG muthafucker or the one who is so far past and tired of muthafuckering. Either way, today is a good day to stare at people!🧿

Incorrect. Janeway already shot it all, and is now resting comfortably while sipping gulping coffee ☕ en route to the next slaughter field no that’s actually what I meant yeah 👍.

One issue for me, and this is also true of Mastodon and by extension Mbin, is that I greatly prefer the voting and focus on a topic area rather than person. X / Twitter / Mastodon / Bluesky is where celebrities go to increase their profits, fame, and relevance, while Reddit / Lemmy / PieFed (/ + nodeBB + flarum + others) are where we discuss matters of import. I’m not criticizing your post here - this is definitely the correct community to discuss such matters:-) - just interjecting my personal preferences into the conversation, to disclose my own biases.

Hi joke, this is dad.

(Doesn’t work, I know, that’s why it works in this context… 🤔😅)

Thank you

If Lemmy.World went away, then correct you would not “lose” the users as, well you said it, they would simply move to another instance.

But if Lemmy.World remained and you blocked it (if you had a method to do that - it’s not easy at all using base Lemmy but it is doable with some older apps or like Ublock Origin filter rules and such), then in that context you would indeed “lose” all of that content. Or like if you got banned from that instance then that’s another way that you could “lose” access to engage with communities located on it.

The more centralized something is, like Reddit, the more damaging it is to lose access to it, while the more decentralized, as you pointed out, the less overall effect that perturbations have upon the network.

That seems a very good way to phrase it.

The next issue then becomes cost. Which affects Lemmy as well: first there is the requisite effort to set up and self-host even a tiny instance (especially as it relates to potential spam and CSAM attacks), and second the network traffic costs. The latter may be tiny for a single user who only subscribes to a handful of communities, but someone trying to browse All and wanting everything to be available for their perusal (even if deleted soon-ish for storage reasons) will bear a much higher burden. Which depending on local costs may be trivially easy… or prohibitively expensive, but in either case the more data that someone wants to pull in the higher the cost.

And I imagine that Bluesky is either similar, or significantly worse.

Bluesky is decentralised in theory, but in reality it is not.

I loved how you phrased it here:-).

This is so cheesy!

(Therefore Porthos loves it - and I do too!:-P)

Looking at your other comment on this thread, thank you - that kind of breakdown was precisely what I was hoping to see!:-)

So Bluesky is more decentralized than Reddit (or Facebook), but barely, and far less so than any Fediverse platform currently.

I think what OP was trying to convey was less the current state of affairs and more the underlying protocol itself, which they re-released now under a separate post.

There is no hope anymore… of avoiding consequences entirely, or perhaps in minimizing them. There IS hope that humanity may not go extinct. The trick as I see it may be to find the balance in between those extremes:-). (Unfortunately I don’t know where precisely that is.)

Edit: people downvoting, please speak up why you believe this is wrong, and if possible send me a link to read in order to learn more? (I tried to include one in my comment but went down a rabbit hole and gave up, with lemm.ee going down I can’t find what I was looking for.)

There. Are. Moar. Lights!

Nice. I remember when it was 80%, then it fell to half, 40%, and apparently now is closer to a third than half. Excellent decentralizing!:-)

I hope I am not adding to the problem here as well. It seems that obviously Bluesky is neither fully centralized nor fully decentralized. Is there a statement about just how much of either it is?

Although that might be complicated - like someone could say that Lemmy is fairly centralized, bc if you block Lemmy.World then you lose half the users and perhaps half the communities (and PieFed even more so, with PieFed.social representing an even higher fraction of users and communities on it).

So there is a distinction between Bluesky the service as it currently is implemented and Bluesky the protocol, the former of which is fairly centralized but the latter is more expandable?

Tbf, even when a Q so much as sneezes it could destabilize subspace so… better to just ignore it all and have fun, I suppose?! 😜

I keep trying to escape, but I do need a paycheck so… [rolls up sleeves] back into the fray I go, once more! :-|