• tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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    9 months ago

    I agree with you except for this part:

    And any nation being cheated by a cancelled deal have only themselves to blame.

    It is still the US as a whole to blame. It is the US citizens who vote this party and it is the country that is failing its obligations.

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          9 months ago

          Well, yes, that’s how gerrymandering works…by giving outisize political power to a minority. I’m certainly not blaming the EU for the way a minority (like Turkey or Hungary) vote on things.

          • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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            9 months ago

            Turkey is not part of the EU.

            The people of the US have the choice to not only elect their parliaments, but also the president. They also elect DAs and Sheriffs in many places. The people of the US have more democratic rights than most other people in countries considered democracies. This includes the ability to adress issues like gerrymandering and politically demanding to change them. But the people chose not to.

            The people of the US are not victims of a system that they cannot possibly adress. Some marginalized groups are. But the majority of the American people are either in favor or indifferent to the current system. And if you are not sure about it, think about how bipartisan the resistance becomes, when marginalized groups are demanding a change to the system, like how the white democratic voters reacted to the civil rights movement or BLM.

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              9 months ago

              The people of the US have more democratic rights than most other people in countries considered democracies.

              This isn’t true. We’ve got a lower democracy index than all of Western Europe, Canada, Australia, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Chili, and Uruguay.

              As far as gerrymandering goes, states draw their own districts, and they’re usually drawn by the party in power and only once a decade after the census. I’m assuming based on your instance that you’re German…so try to imagine an election where everyone’s only choices were between the AfD FDP (far-right proto-Nazis vs. neoliberal center-right) and whichever party won got to redraw all your voting districts. Neither of the parties really need to listen to their voters because the fascists will vote fascist no matter what, and everyone else is torn between voting for a party that’s still too-right or not voting and risking the fascists taking it all. I think mosy Americans are about as culpable for the current state of things as the average German was right before Hitler was elected by about 43% of the electorate in 1933.

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              9 months ago

              The people of the US have the choice to not only elect their parliaments, but also the president. They also elect DAs and Sheriffs in many places. The people of the US have more democratic rights than most other people in countries considered democracies.

              The fact that they’re having more elections does not mean they have ‘more democratic rights’.

              I for example fail to see the point of the US mid-term elections. It doesn’t make the US system more democratic, just more complex.

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      9 months ago

      It is most definitely NOT the peoples’ fault. 2/3rds of the government’s branches aren’t even elected (by the people at least).

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        9 months ago

        Additionally there are massive propaganda machines dedicated to maximizing the power of the right wing across all aspects of society and government

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          9 months ago

          Propaganda is ever-present. What doesn’t have to be present is a “representative democracy” that is hardly democratic and only represents the rich…