• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    He really does think the EU is a country. I’m not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

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      America was killed, by Americans, in a democratic election. And so many are still fondling the corpse, writhing with carrion bugs, and pretending it’s still alive.

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      4 days ago

      Twice. They did it twice.

      You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the ‘real politicians’ a scare to get them back in line. However that’s a lot of ‘almost’ and ‘maybe’.

      But the second time, that’s fucking unforgivable.

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        I didn’t vote for him, but I expected his first term to be appoiting halfway competent people to run everything so he could fuck around and take the credit. I doubt I was alone.

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              He is incredibly lazy, but he’s also incredibly vain and thin-skinned. Halfway competent people don’t suck up to him enough, so he was never going to be interested in appointing them. It was always obvious he was going to prefer incompetent but fawning.

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      Oh…

      I can guaran-fucking-tee you my opinion of so-called “Americans” will never recover…

      I’m more concerned if the country is ever able to recover.

      FUCK!! IT’S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS!!

      Much worse is yet to be realized.

      And, yes, I’m a suitably embarrassed US’ian.

      🙄 🤦‍♀️

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        As a resident of a Continental Country that is not the US, we’ve pretty much always seen Europe as a single, monolithic thing. It’s hard for us to grasp how something like France, which is just slightly bigger than Minas Gerais, 4th largest state of Brazil, is a completely separate thing from the rest.

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          Honestly, that just seems like ignorance. It’s like you don’t know that France likes wine and Germany drinks beer. Or that the two were on opposite sides of two world wars.

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            It’s like you don’t know that Rio Grande do Sul and São Paulo were on opposite sides of the Farrapos war or Rio Grande do Sul likes wine and São Paulo drinks more beer.

            Regional cultural differences and history don’t come into question when it comes to how one country perceives others in the side of the world, so please, refrain from those simplistic ad-hominem arguments.

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              the Farrapos war

              Ah yes, the famous Ragamuffin War in which 3000 people were killed. Seems similar to World War I, in which over 15 million people died, or World War II in which over 70 million people died. In one case Brazil put down a rebellion in their territory. In the other case, nearly the entire world was at war across multiple continents. Yep, sounds pretty similar to me.

              Rio Grande do Sul likes wine and São Paulo drinks more beer.

              Do you mean that Rio Grande do Sul drinks slightly more wine but still prefers beer?

              Please stop pretending that slight regional differences in Brazil compare to centuries of conflict between two of the historical superpowers of Europe.

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        I was going to say this. Trump thinks the EU already is what I wish it will become.

        Maybe his efforts will push us further into that direction though?

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          One of the good things to come from this is an end to the hegemony of the US. Now I have to hope the rest of the world will choose to be better as a result of it.

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              While I’m sure it will at least partially fill the vacuum left by the US, it won’t have the “soft power” the US did over the entire Western world.

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                If the US keeps trying this trade war trick, and they’ll end up realising that China is where stuff is made.

                I’m Norwegian and they seem to have a bunch of soft power here by saying “if you do that, we won’t buy your salmon anymore.” Time’ll show, I guess.

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            Hmm, I would hope, but I doubt US power and influence will disappear that easily. It’ll probably just be more negative.

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      ~32% of Americans voted for Trump. ~31% for Kamala, and the remaining ~37% voted third party or not at all.

      Republicans are taking these actions, not Americans. And Democrats should have captured more of the 67% instead of going after the ~32%.

      That being said, Americans are dumbbbb

      Edit: 37% didn’t vote, not 67%. Thanks Lemming

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        Oh, fuck that. Stop making excuses.

        Yes, the US electoral system is all kinds of fucked up, but Trump won, and the Republicans won a majority in the house and the senate. And since then, even though he’s dismantling the federal government the level of protesting in the US is minimal.

        Look at the protests in Serbia or in Turkey, or even in Israel. The protests in the US aren’t happening because enough Americans either support Trump or are OK with what he’s doing. This isn’t some merely Republican thing. This is Germany in the 1930s, one group driving the process and the vast majority either supporting or just going along.

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          The protests in Turkey are something I wish Americans would demonstrate. I agree.

          I think the reality is that Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, they’re highly individualistic after decades of materialistic conditioning, and younger generations are captured by social media instead of voicing their woes in the streets.

          But there is an appetite for action. Look at Bernie’s rallies. People want change, and polls reflect how people have little to no faith in the Democrats.

          There needs to be an organizing principle if any political action should be effective. I’m finding the group 50501 to be that, and I try to share their plans on social media and with my friends & family. The next protest I plan on going to is on April 5th.

          But you’re right. Americans are distracted with their toys and treats. Make no mistake though. If Trump’s decisions continue to tank the economy, and toys and treats become too expensive, even for the middle and lower class, I believe there will be more action.

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      Well, I as (a well educated) European was quite surprised by the fact USA is a state… So… We’re even?

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        It’s an economic zone made up of smaller countries, and functionality structured in a completely different way the US is regarding the fed vs the states. That fact the US president is referring to a continent as a country is unbelievably embarrassing.