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      I don’t know. Probably because he’s taken the most money from Israel of any US politician alive?

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      Our whole system supports genocide. America supports genocide. We need to go deeper than biden to address this issue.e

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      If Trump were in office, he’d be endorsing the rape torture and abuse explicitly. If we lived in an alternate universe and Hillary was on her second term, she’d do nothing to stop Isreal and keep weapons flowing, if Obama was on his fourth term, he’d do nothing, if W was on his 6th term? We would still be in a perpetual war with multiple countries in the middle east and Israel would be a key supporter. He would probably help with the genocide with boots on the ground.

      A large portion of the reason Isreal never reached a settlement with Palistine and kept up with their perpetual war and ethnic cleansing is due to the US preferring they do it this way. Obama’s foreign policy was to do whatever the military suggested, as his administrative advisers said ‘‘A Democrat can’t say no to the military’’. Bush’s administration never even bothered to have internal justifications for any military endeavor. Trump is the most evangelical president we’ve ever had, he constantly did whatever evangelicals wanted, and war in Isreal, antagonism and aggression to Arab nations is one of their top priorities, as according to their beliefs Jesus will not come again until the Temple is rebuilt, sacrifices are made, and a world war or multinational middle eastern war against Isreal happens, once they have nearly been destroyed THEN Jesus comes again. Hillary likely would have the same policy Obama did, let the military do whatever it wants so you don’t get called soft of foreign policy in the next election cycle.

      Biden likely has the exact same policy. Like so many issues in the US, even in our fantasies there’s no alternative to what horrible shit were doing now.

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        Sorry but Democrats have to do better than “or else Trump.”

        I don’t know how you people don’t understand that yet. I also don’t know how I’m supposed to believe your uncited claims when you spell Palestine incorrectly.

        But sure keep on doing your same old stick. I’m trying to get out by November and the Democrats can get purged by Trump for all I give a shit. My great-grandparents took their money and fled Nazi Germany for the United States and I will do the same for South America. If the left is too weak and cowardly to stop the fascism from progressing then it’s going to come to the same conclusion regardless. And the left is embarrassingly weak and complicit with the right.

        I used to be an activist and I’ve been on the police s*** list for the better part of 10 years in my area so I am experiencing a lot of anxiety about what will happen if Trump gets reelected. At the same time I am experiencing a lot of despair that I was never able to motivate almost anyone to bother even voting.

        When you see both parties openly supporting a genocide, it’s time to fucking run. If Democrats can sit here and make up justifications for why it’s happening to the Palestinians they will do the same thing when the right comes for the actual left.

        Every time I see a list of atrocities that the Republicans are going to commit if they get elected as some kind of motivation to vote, it makes me sick to my stomach. If you want me to vote then give me a candidate I want to vote for who shares any kind of moral compass with me.

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          All we have seen is decline. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents: continues progress. People in BRICS countries have that today.

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            I can only be bothered to care so much. I literally just got done taking a walk through the neighborhood and couldn’t find a single flying insect to save my life. You and everyone else can pretend that the stock market somehow represents human success or productivity, but it doesn’t and we’re fucked. That’s why the people who get to keep all the money you generate are building bunkers. People in the brics countries are basically slaves to the West and will cook to death first.

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          Biden isn’t living in a bubble, he’s running against Trump, and it’s clearly effecting his domestic policy heavily, anyone can see he’s trying to shore up weaknesses Biden has against Trump’s old policies and rhetoric. If you can’t grasp that Biden is making decisions based on the 8 years he was in the legislator under W, the 8 years he was VP under Obama and he 4 years he’s been president, compared to Trump’s 4, and the current race for President against Trump’s record and current talking points, you’re not capable of having a conservation about politics.

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            Oh yes how silly of me. Supporting a genocide is just good politics. Very well carry on murdering and raping.

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              “Why is Biden letting Genocide happen”

              • let’s look at the history and context and where we are now politically to understand why

              “You can’t talk about that! We’re talking about why Biden letting genocide happen!!!”

              • Yeah, he’s letting genocide happen for these reasons that’s why that’s what I’m talking about

              “YOU LOVE GENOCIDE!!!”

              • it’s like your immune to nuance. Look if you want to organize a protest to demand serious actions against genocide take place, I’ll show up and get pepper sprayed by the cops right next to you. That’s the only realistic action to take that could change anything the US government is doing. But if you wanna talk about why. Your gonna have to stop plugging your ears and yelling.
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                I was talking about Biden, but sure, go off. There is no nuance to genocide. You don’t support one and then get the “good guy” stamp in history books. There is no excuse, no possible reason it’s somehow morally okay.