If Palestine had the international funds and military equipment of Israel they would be able to similarly protect their civilians
Or they would use those funds and equipment to do what they’ve layed out in their charter, which is to destory Israel and “push the jews into the sea”.
You’re just glossing right past the fact that one has been intentionally impoverished
No I’m not. The better question is, why is that? According to lemmy, they have like the noblest cause in the world, so why isn’t the international community flocking to aid them?
Also the blood is on more than just the trigger pullers. Surely you wouldn’t disagree that organizers that didn’t directly participate don’t have blood on their hands.
Sure, there is more blame to go around. But we should have learned from WW2 that “just following orders” isn’t an excuse that absolves people from responsibilty.
I guess it is a bit muddier when you account for religious childhood indoctrination.
All about killing terrorists but never that interested in the geopolitical context that bred those terrorists.
Because it’s not that relevant to the situation anymore. It’s very unlikley that a nation will ever be established in the way that Israel was. And yes, it was a very terrible chain of events. Hopefully lessons have been learned to avoid such partitions in the future.
But for this conflict, it’s done. Unless you have a time machine, Israel is there now and it’s powerful enough to not be going away anytime soon.
There is also no chance of a Palestinian military victory. So the only prospects for them is either making some kind of peace (yes, the conditions will be shit, but the killing will stop) … or keep fighting an unwinnable war, which will just put you into an even shittier position down the line.
Talking about the geopolitical context can be very interessting, but it doesn’t help much when coming up with a solution. But we can blame the British if you want?
Mindless assumption that assumes the worst, not surprised but speculation doesn’t strengthen an argument.
I also haven’t absolved any terrorist of their disgusting actions. And beyond religious indoctrination you should consider general political indoctrination too.
Final point, context is always important if you want a solution that involves justice. If you start disregarding context you can make literally anything okay with the right framing. If you disregard the context of Hamas attacking, Israel’s current policies would seem even more extreme. If you ignore the murders committed by the Israeli military s as king other actions, the recent Hamas attack seems even more drastic than it already is and portrays it as more random of an occurrence than it actually is.
Arguing against needing context is arguing for ignorance.
Or they would use those funds and equipment to do what they’ve layed out in their charter, which is to destory Israel and “push the jews into the sea”.
No I’m not. The better question is, why is that? According to lemmy, they have like the noblest cause in the world, so why isn’t the international community flocking to aid them?
Sure, there is more blame to go around. But we should have learned from WW2 that “just following orders” isn’t an excuse that absolves people from responsibilty.
I guess it is a bit muddier when you account for religious childhood indoctrination.
Because it’s not that relevant to the situation anymore. It’s very unlikley that a nation will ever be established in the way that Israel was. And yes, it was a very terrible chain of events. Hopefully lessons have been learned to avoid such partitions in the future.
But for this conflict, it’s done. Unless you have a time machine, Israel is there now and it’s powerful enough to not be going away anytime soon.
There is also no chance of a Palestinian military victory. So the only prospects for them is either making some kind of peace (yes, the conditions will be shit, but the killing will stop) … or keep fighting an unwinnable war, which will just put you into an even shittier position down the line.
Talking about the geopolitical context can be very interessting, but it doesn’t help much when coming up with a solution. But we can blame the British if you want?
Mindless assumption that assumes the worst, not surprised but speculation doesn’t strengthen an argument.
I also haven’t absolved any terrorist of their disgusting actions. And beyond religious indoctrination you should consider general political indoctrination too.
Final point, context is always important if you want a solution that involves justice. If you start disregarding context you can make literally anything okay with the right framing. If you disregard the context of Hamas attacking, Israel’s current policies would seem even more extreme. If you ignore the murders committed by the Israeli military s as king other actions, the recent Hamas attack seems even more drastic than it already is and portrays it as more random of an occurrence than it actually is.
Arguing against needing context is arguing for ignorance.