• FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Let’s not mince words here, Israel wanted this to happen. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if they even loosely facilitated it somehow.

    Now they have an excuse to complete their genocide and free up the rest of their lebensraum for their pure arya—I mean Jewish state.

    • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      even if this shit wasnt deliberately allowed to happen, the level of neglect coupled with the sheer fucking gleeful violence israel has unleashed in response makes the distinction practically meaningless

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        Yup its too bad the motherfucking bibi has the reigns of Isreal and Hamas has the reigns of Gaza, it’s going to be a bloodbath (well it already is) and he’s gonna use it to push through his judicial coup.
        Some people are saying “this is Isreal’s 9/11”, we all know its curtains for people’s rights.

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          It’s for sure gonna get uglier. I’m told Bibi has implemented a bunch of anti-democratic shit to rig things his way but I don’t know enough about Israeli internal politics to say for certain if that’s the case. Him and Trump seemed to think alike in that regard. (To the extent Orange Julius thinks anyway.)

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          It’s quite easy to read that as “all of Israel” without the qualifiers, and I’ve seen many people on here saying just that, so please pardon the confusion.

          I think the distinction is important though, and it’s why I tend to say “fuck the CCP” and not “fuck China.”

          I have no beef with Chinese people, but a lot with the CCP.

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            9 months ago

            Yeah. If you ignore the context of where it was said, sure, it’s easy to read it in ways not at all implied by the context.

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              9 months ago

              I dunno man, when I said “they” might have facilitated it somehow, I definitely could have been talking about all Israeli citizens!

              /s

    • 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚐@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      The demographics of those affected are particularly useful politically.

      • The Lawfare Podcast - 20231010 - Special Edition: Noah Efron on the Awful Quiet of This Moment

      @19m58s - Noah Efron

      …the outpouring of grief has been universal and completely undifferentiated, I mean, to be really crass about it, the thousand people who were killed are—almost all of them are the kinds of people who you would see at a protest on a Saturday night. They’re almost all leftist, they’re almost all secular

      @26m24s - Noah Efron

      …people will be judging every move that the army makes and every move that the government makes: is it humane or inhumane, is it effective or ineffective, is it too weak; and they will be screaming one at the other, they will be dissatisfied, they will be angry, and then within the country as well it will not be long before—and in fact we have already begun to see some of this—before some people in the government say, you know, the reason why Hamas launched a thousand people with handheld rockets and with automatic guns to go house-to-house and murder children and their parents is because those left-wingers who are protesting every week gave them the idea that we are weak

      Edit: included transcriptions

      Edit 2: grammar and formatting