Israeli troops are fighting with Hamas militants on the edges of Gaza City, as the Palestinian death toll rises above 9,000. U.S. and Arab leaders are raising pressure on Israel to ease its siege and at least briefly halt its attacks in order to aid civilians.
  • NevermindNoMind@lemmy.worldEnglish
    245·
    1 year ago

    Sacrifice your soldiers today for potential enemy soldiers in the future, while you’re at war and under attack by said enemy? Great plan.

    My plan is to comply with international humanitarian law. It is a great plan. Its an awesome fucking plan in fact.

    You’re suggesting Israel should have to keep open supply lines open for enemy forces.

    And here you acknowledge the cage.

    Embargoing and cutting off your supplies from a hostile force is pretty standard when it comes to warfare.

    2.1 million Palestinians are a hostile force? Also its literally a requirement of international humanitiarian law

    IHL provides that civilians under the power of enemy forces must be treated humanely in all circumstances, without any adverse distinction. They must be protected against all forms of violence and degrading treatment, including murder and torture. Moreover, in case of prosecution, they are entitled to a fair trial affording all essential judicial guarantees. The protection of civilians extends to those trying to help them, in particular medical units and humanitarian or relief bodies providing essentials such as food, clothing and medical supplies. The warring parties are required to allow access to such organizations. The Fourth Geneva Convention and Additional Protocol I specifically require belligerents to facilitate the work of the ICRC. While IHL protects all civilians without discrimination, certain groups are singled out for special mention. Women and children, the aged and sick are highly vulnerable during armed conflict. So too are those who flee their homes and become internally displaced or refugees. IHL prohibits forced displacements by intimidation, violence or starvation.>

    Your literally defending war crimes buddy. Maybe take a look in the mirror.

    • DarkGamer@kbin.social
      618·
      1 year ago

      2.1 million Palestinians are a hostile force?

      The territory of Gaza is at war with Israel. That means the people in these territories are at war with each other. And territories at war, war with each other collectively. Government-sponsored violence against another government subjects the entire territory they control to violence. That’s the way war works.

      The protection of civilians extends to those trying to help them, in particular medical units and humanitarian or relief bodies providing essentials such as food, clothing and medical supplies. The warring parties are required to allow access to such organizations.

      Israel is allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza.

      Your literally defending war crimes buddy. Maybe take a look in the mirror.

      You literally asked me to defend it!

      • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
        134·
        1 year ago

        I am sorry but this humanitarian aid is extremely insufficient, plenty of people can’t access it, there are no pauses of fighting, they are indiscriminately killing people. Israel doesn’t really care about the civilian suffering and deaths and they are proving it every day.

        What Israel is doing with Gaza is horrific and eerily resembles what the Jewish people went through during the Holocaust, just this time they are the aggressor. You know Gaza is like an open air concentration camp where people are starved and killed, forced to live in makeshift tents and dehumanized by their oppressor. Shame that you haven’t learnt your lesson!

        And perhaps you should also self reflect on your morality and perhaps check your karma

        • DarkGamer@kbin.social
          35·
          1 year ago

          I am sorry but this humanitarian aid is extremely insufficient, plenty of people can’t access it

          The increase in humanitarian aid just started.
          That they are providing it at all is pretty incredible as far as warfare goes. Could you imagine if the world criticized the US for not sending humanitarian aid to Nazi Germany while they were still belligerent to them, before they unconditionally surrendered, and then after providing some, the world criticized them for not sending enough?
          Gaza has been so thoroughly defeated that they are dependent on Israel for the most basic necessities, yet refuse to surrender, choosing instead to escalate attacks. This is very strange warfare, historically the consequences for refusing to pacify would have been far more dire than what Israel has done, they have shown great restraint so far. If they played by the same rules as Hamas there would be no Palestine.

          there are no pauses of fighting

          They are at war after all.

          they are indiscriminately killing people.

          Indiscriminate rocket attacks are more of a Palestinian thing. According to Israel they are hitting valid military targets that are often placed by Hamas among civilians with relatively high accuracy. I’d like a citation if you have credible evidence from an unbiased source that their attacks are indiscriminate, please.

          You know Gaza is … where people are starved and killed, forced to live in makeshift tents and dehumanized by their oppressor.

          It’s almost like there are consequences to constant guerilla attacks then provoking a war one cannot win against a nation one is entirely dependent upon for necessities, which possesses a superior military force. I guess the inevitable and predictable consequences of the war they provoked are Israel’s fault.

          like an open air concentration camp … What Israel is doing with Gaza is horrific and eerily resembles what the Jewish people went through during the Holocaust,

          Yeah it’s just like that, remember when the Jews instigated guerilla attacks against Germans for over a century, refused to negotiate for peace, declared multiple failed wars on them aided by Germany’s neighboring states, then slaughtered thousands of German civilians in a guerilla attack? Wait, actually, none of that happened.
          The only similarity is that there are people in walled enclaves. Jews were peaceful members of German society and were put in concentration camps because of conspiracy theories, racism, and scapegoating. Usually the only way out was death. Gazans are behind a wall because of belligerence, they are literally killing Israeli civilians and refuse to stop. They can leave through the Raffah gate when it’s open and no one is systemically eradicating them, (were that Israel’s goal they certainly have the means but have chosen not to because they are not fucking Nazis.) I find your comparison distasteful and reductionist, an attempt to make Jews as bad as the most reviled of historical villains, when they are simply trying everything they can to achieve safety from a neighbor who, like the Nazis, openly wants to genocide them.

          Shame that you haven’t learnt your lesson! And perhaps you should also self reflect on your morality and perhaps check your karma

          I don’t know about your server, but my karma is quite high on mine, not that it matters. I’m not going to pick up a pitchfork and simp for Hamas simply because that’s popular with the online mob. Shame on you for tacitly defending them and suggesting I should do the same.