• webadict@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Are you suggesting it is okay to kill civilians being used as human shields?

      • 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Are you suggesting that human shields have more value than the people who is being mortally attacked from behind the shields?

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          No. That’s exactly the point, you dipshit. They have AS MUCH value. Equal to.

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          8 months ago

          Value is for spreadsheets.

          Humans have worth. And all humans have equal worth. All things actually.

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            8 months ago

            I don’t agree with that nice sounding platitude. Terrorists and pedophiles lives don’t have the same worth as a nobel price winner to society.

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              8 months ago

              That’s a moral judgment. Worth has nothing to do with it.

              All things, by virtue of their existence, have equal worth.

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              8 months ago

              Wonderful example, considering anybody can be nominated and win a Nobel peace prize, including people guilty of ethnic cleansing.

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                somehow I’m not surprised that you can’t even think about science and how it contributes to civilization. you are being intellectually dishonest by claiming that we are all equal and then you pick the worst possible example from the group instead of picking the best representatives of nobel prize winners before comparing them with terrorists.

                but sure I’ll take anyone from the list of nobel prize winners (which in my opinion are usually political) over someone that puts babies in ovens and burns them alive. it’s not really that complicated as you are trying to make it seem, even when you pick a strawman interpretation of my comment.

                EDIT: In a way I’m not surprised that the very people who defend hamas think that rapists and terrorists have the same worth as a nobel prize winner.

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                  8 months ago

                  No one is defending Hamas. People are defending all the innocent civilians who are being attacked and killed.

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                    8 months ago

                    I hope that willfully ignoring the people defending hamas works for you.

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              8 months ago

              All things being equal, the IDF are bigger and more successful terrorists than Hamas and their response to the October 7 attack was a disproportionate response, despite the IDF also conducting operations in the west bank at the same exact time.

              Justice for Palestine

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          8 months ago

          I would suggest they are certainly more valuable than the incompetent marksmen who would rather make excuses than aim their fucking guns

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      8 months ago

      Genocide apologist try not to justify bombing hospitals challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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      8 months ago

      Just like bank robbers do, and you wouldn’t be ok with the police entering with flamethrowers

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      8 months ago

      So if a bank robber took a cashier as a hostage, you’d suggest to just shoot the hostage, to get to the bank robber?

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        Comparing actions being taken in a war being fought over an area larger than that of Delaware to that of a bank robbery is too reductionist to give any sort of meaningful response to.

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          I was mainly focusing on the validity of taking out hostages in order to get to the bad guys.

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            War fucking sucks, and sometimes the only way to save 10,000 lives is to end 100. Every country has limited resources to deal with hostage situations in active warzones.

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              Hahaha isreali loses are less than 2000 by all the numbers I’ve found, Palestinians dead 10000+, Palestinians injured 30000.

              You’re correct, scale matters.

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              The thing though is, that this is not the case with IDF. They have plenty resources, enough to be selling to the rest of the world actually, and they are not preventing an impending attack. It seems like their motives are somewhere else