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  • Sanyanov@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Arch is easy to install; it’s a headache to manage.

    If you want a stable Arch, you need to check the updates and take very granular control over packages and versioning.

    While some nerds may like tinkering with their system in all those ways, for regular user Arch is simply too much effort to maintain.

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        10 months ago

        Useful, but still it kinda makes you read through all the update news, which is…why?

        I’d like to just hit update and not bother.

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          10 months ago

          Then you’re on your own. What the duck 🦆 do you expect to happen if you can’t even invest the 10sec to skim over a message (in the few events that there even is one) to see if it affects you and any manual intervention is required.

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      10 months ago

      It is actually very easy:

      1. You setup auto-snapshots (almost trivial)
      2. You update
      3. Evaluate
        3.1) Repeat goto 2
        3.2) Rollback goto 2

      The only problem here is that snapshots (and btrfs for that matter) are not the default behaviour. I would really appreciate Endeavour having this as the default setup. It is very likely what you’d want.

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        10 months ago

        True, but if snapshots turn from first line of catastrophe response to a regular tool, this is not a good experience.

        Also I believe Garuda has enabled snapshots and btrfs by default.

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          10 months ago

          Yes, Garuda does, even with bootable snapshots, but it’s otherwise not as clean as Endeavour. As far as I can tell, mkinitcpio/GRUB2 or their setup thereof causes more problems than it solves. My system was bricked multiple times until I switched to a dracut/systemd-boot setup, which works flawlessly since quite a while.

          As for the user experience, there are 0 distros you should perform a (major) upgrade on without taking a snapshot first. I had broken systems after apt upgrade. From my point of view rolling vs versioned release are basically occasional mild vs scheduled huge headaches.