I propose an analogy: Let’s imagine a company sells brush…
That would be analogous to any content publicly available for free (or via donation). OpenAI wants free access to the art being sold. They also don’t really create the brush, they produced slightly modified versions of the art produced by the artists who does not receive money or credit
Should all your teachers be paid for everything you produce throughout your life ?
They definitely should be paid more. But your analogy is completely off track here since, unlike AI, humans can actually posses and develop intelligence. Not just parrot combinations or the same things we have seen before
Should your parents gets compensated every time you use the knowledge you acquired from them ?
Ok now you are just flailing but even then, yes and most do as it is a general thing that kids take care of their parents when the kids are grown and parents cannot look after themselves
In case anyone reading is interested by my opinion…
This is your best paragraph and I would agree with it. It’s not compatible with capitalism as you allude but I’d be open to radical new thinking
However, that’s is not what’s at play here either. OpenAI wants something we all have to pay for, for free, so they can then resale something else. Worst yet, the value in what OpenAI wants to sell, lies basically on never paying again to the people who produce the stuff it wants for free
But then If we agree on IP, we should not complain that openai want free access to copyrighted materials, we should use their own logic to force them to make their model open source, and free for anyone to execute on their own hardware.
They get free access to data so we should get free access to the compilation of the data. Then they can charge us for the hardware cost of running the model, but they’ll have to charge us no more than what it costs, because they will be competing with other company running the exact same model and driving the price down.
Well I agree with the concept of freeing IP but I don’t think the first step is to give such freedom to a closed, for profit, corporation. If OpenAI was indeed an open source project, then yes, but that is not the case today
If we give them free access to copyright material, what will happen is that it will be an exception for them but not for us. You know this.
That would be analogous to any content publicly available for free (or via donation). OpenAI wants free access to the art being sold. They also don’t really create the brush, they produced slightly modified versions of the art produced by the artists who does not receive money or credit
They definitely should be paid more. But your analogy is completely off track here since, unlike AI, humans can actually posses and develop intelligence. Not just parrot combinations or the same things we have seen before
Ok now you are just flailing but even then, yes and most do as it is a general thing that kids take care of their parents when the kids are grown and parents cannot look after themselves
This is your best paragraph and I would agree with it. It’s not compatible with capitalism as you allude but I’d be open to radical new thinking
However, that’s is not what’s at play here either. OpenAI wants something we all have to pay for, for free, so they can then resale something else. Worst yet, the value in what OpenAI wants to sell, lies basically on never paying again to the people who produce the stuff it wants for free
But then If we agree on IP, we should not complain that openai want free access to copyrighted materials, we should use their own logic to force them to make their model open source, and free for anyone to execute on their own hardware.
They get free access to data so we should get free access to the compilation of the data. Then they can charge us for the hardware cost of running the model, but they’ll have to charge us no more than what it costs, because they will be competing with other company running the exact same model and driving the price down.
Well I agree with the concept of freeing IP but I don’t think the first step is to give such freedom to a closed, for profit, corporation. If OpenAI was indeed an open source project, then yes, but that is not the case today
If we give them free access to copyright material, what will happen is that it will be an exception for them but not for us. You know this.