• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    Because their masculinity and confidence in themselves is so impeccable that nothing that anyone any where can say or state about any other sexuality will ever effect them.

    They are so comfortable and sure in who they are that nothing they ever see, no matter how different, will ever affect them.

    To me, someone who accepts everyone else while maintaining their own surety on themselves is the height of masculinity.

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      To me, someone who accepts everyone else while maintaining their own surety on themselves is the height of masculinity.

      I’m sorry, but are you saying feminine people cannot also do this? Or that it would make them masculine?

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          All i can think of is the nurturing and protective instinct of mothers that society lionizes, but those apply to men too so i don’t really see them as feminine.

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              All i did was ask a question, and you have shed no light on that at all. I don’t know what problem you refer to or how your comments relate to what op said. Maybe I’m a moron… I give up.

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                As did I. So, I’m not sure how you could have a problem with someone else doing the same. Yet here you are.

                Either there are no inherently masculine and feminine virtues or the best we have are social constructs that fall short of what we want and picking at people for attempting to present a positive version of masculinity that isn’t just fighting or dominating isn’t helping anyone.

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                  As did I. So, I’m not sure how you could have a problem with someone else doing the same. Yet here you are.

                  I answered your question and i did not accuse you of picking at me or ask you to give me a break. I am merely frustrated that my initial question has not been answered and you have been a bit cryptic.

                  So I’ll ask it again in a different way: if i am a woman who is comfortable with themself and unconcerned with other peoples sexualities, does that make me manly? Is this a difficult question? Am i weird if my answer is no? Why is asking this question seen as an attack on positive masculinity?

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                    Well, you answered while evading you own answer. I don’t remember saying that you did any of those thing. Perhaps you could remind me of when I did?

                    What answer do you want there? What would make you be happy about what was said? You clearly have a problem here. So, why woman or man up and state it?

                    Can you quote where I said your question was an attack on positive masculinity? Its just that, without that, ita going to look like a terribly bad faith and desperate twisting of something that wasn’t close to what was said.

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      7 days ago

      “Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one.” – Marcus Aurelius

      Edit: extrapolated for modernity, rephrase as “good person”