• 4lan@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    They have a choice. They could either kill innocent people or sit in a jail cell. Picking the first one makes you a sociopath.

    I guarantee he would face a lot less trauma in jail, especially since he is a trained soldier.

    Stop making excuses, “complexity” doesn’t justify genocide. Do you also think that our soldiers who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis are just victims? Do you think the surviving family members would agree with that sentiment? That their families murderer is a victim?

    It’s all the same shit. They are copying us creating more terrorists for the future wars

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      I guarantee he would face a lot less trauma in jail

      glances at the state of Israeli prisons, complete with guards who have the designated job of raping prisoners

      Maybe not a lot less.

      They are copying us creating more terrorists for the future wars

      Given the degree to which the NATO states consult with IDF security officials when training their own police and military, it might be them passing their brutal and fascist policies onto us.

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      It’s not a justification for genocide, it’s a call for empathy. Give what I wrote another read with that in mind.

      As for your questions… I think our soldiers are victims. I was there, so I think I’ve got at least a somewhat informed perspective on things. It’s not something you can prepare for. In my experience, forgiveness and understanding come with time, but it will never be the majority.

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        it’s a call for empathy

        Empathy isn’t just about feeling sad for other people. It is about relating to them emotionally. In this case, we’re dealing with people who are professional physical, psychological, and sexual abusers. Empathizing them should mean recognizing these sociopathic traits and recoiling in horror.

        If you’re feeling pity for a chronic abuser, you’re not feeling empathy. You’re being exploited. The first response to dealing with a chronic abuser is to separate yourself from them. If you’re opening yourself up to their manipulation, you’re feeding into the abuse cycle.

        In my experience, forgiveness and understanding come with time

        How can you even begin to talk about forgiveness as this act of abuse is still playing out before our eyes?

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      And if the glass house you call your home exists in the united states, then your taxes financed filling the soldiers heads with the propaganda, financed sending them out on the field, made sure they had rations and ammo, and paid to put their finger on that trigger. What’s your culpability, compadre? You know when you point your finger at someone, you’ve got three more aimed straight at yourself, right?

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        Oh, no. You misunderstood. I absolutely acknowledge that. It’s a pretty spicy issue in my area. It would pretty rad to choose where my taxes go, though. I’d much rather fund schools and national parks. I think that’s dragging things a bit off-topic, though.