The German foreign ministry, which commissioned the study after suspecting it was being targeted by bots, said the findings highlighted the need for governments to systematically tackle the growing number of disinformation campaigns and recognise the effect they could have on elections.
One honest question I have is how effective such a campaign really is. Sometimes I feel like Russian disinformation is used as an excuse when public opinion is genuinely shifting away from the government line.
You saw this as well during the BLM protests in the US, where some liberals accused Russia of instigating the riots.
I live in Germany and I know multiple people that think the best thing to do right now is just accept the losses, get a peace deal, and stop the violence. And I don’t think they are on X.
Just to clarify I’m not saying Russia isn’t trying or that no measures should be taken to limit obviously foreign propaganda, I’m just wondering if it really has that much of an effect.
I don’t understand this weariness you describe. We aren’t even at war, we are comfortably sitting back letting Ukraine do the fighting. All we have to do is throw some money and equipment their way and they essentially fight for our geopolitical interests by proxy.
What’s more, who the fuck are we to tell them to settle and be done with the war, when clearly Russia doesn’t respect any status quo or existing border. Imagine the outrage if it was us at war with, say, France over northrhine-westphalia and everyone was urging us to just concede that territory for the sake of peace.
We should throw billions at Ukraine and place whole orders with our MIC for them, and afterwards still say thank you very much. Because they die we don’t have to.
If others were funding Germany’s war then it would be reasonable to heed their advice lest they withdraw the funding.
The weariness comes from the fact that the people actually dying or getting maimed for life, don’t want to fight anymore. They are getting forcefully conscripted. Most Ukrainians that volunteered are already dead or wounded.
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The problem with this idea is Russia’s track record of broken deals (like accepting Ukraine’s territorial integrity, then invading) and aggressive ambitions (greetings to our Baltic allies). Chances are the last two points are nothing but false hopes and all that remains is “accept the losses”, while Russia prepares to invade the next neighbor. All the good points are also the untrustworthy points. We kind of tried this idea when they took Crimea, and see where it got us.
Russia is an independent actor on the world stage, with a huge military, a huge nuclear arsenal, and a huge economy (ppp). We have to find a way to live peacefully with them because the alternative is a nuclear holocaust.
Russia started a war of aggression, which is THE primary war crime, and should not go unpunished. So relations can probably not be normalized until the current leadership is replaced (which granted might take a while), but a cease fire at least stops the killing.
Literally no one said this…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_Black_Lives_Matter
All I’m seeing in this article is that ruskie trollfarms cranked out both pro and con propaganda, just like they do for literally everything. It is legit actually part of FSB standard practice LONG before they tried to meme. Just look at how their own government news does it constantly.
But I don’t see any parts where it says liberals accused russia of starting the riots.
I see a lot of info about studies that showed that those groups did output a ridiculous amount of memes intending to rile up folks, but I don’t see evidence of liberals blaming the riots on russia.
It’s funny, you’re using russian troll farm techniques and now I’m going to spend a few minutes going over your post history.
I don’t have a sourced archive of all the stupid shit I come across on the internet, but if you google “Russia BLM” there are many articles from liberal newspapers being concerned about the worrying influence of Russia on BLM.
And here is a British politician spreading conspiracy theories about Russia and BLM:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-ferguson-russia/
Have fun in my post history, maybe if you take the first letter of every post it spells out “IM A RUSSIAN TROLL”.
But again, EVEN THEN, just paying a few people to go out to protest doesn’t start a protest.
They put in effort to make it worse, sure, that’s what they do.
But they didn’t start it. Hell technically BLM didn’t even start it just rode the wave of already high strung public sentiment.
Oh I don’t think you are a russian troll, but I DO think you are a troll that isn’t creative enough to make your own tactics so borrow the well publicly documented format of russian state sponsored trolling.
Something tells me you’ve spent scholarly time reading the Gentleman’s guide to forum disruption.
You stated no one said Russia instigated BLM riots and I gave you a clear example, now you’re just moving the goalposts.
And not everyone with a different worldview than you is a troll, people have different opinions that’s why politics exists.
No you didn’t give a ‘clear example’, and no I am not moving any goalposts. That’s your side’s trick.
You can go play your word games with someone else.
Just because a troll farm paid 2 people to break windows doesn’t mean that those two people started the riot. How fuckdamn naive do you even have to be to believe this?
You’ve literally accused everybody who disagrees with you of either trolling or lying. I think you need a break from the Internet.
I literally haven’t, but you want to make the discussion look that way.
I’m not the troll here.
Again, take a break. Enjoy the block list
you don’t need to be on X too be touched by that, X is the media to create a “thinking”, people talk and share the fake news in other platforms
So you know 3 nutjobs that believe the propaganda, good job mate. They may not be on Xitter, but I bet you they are on Telegram, where the worst of Xitter’s content is aggregated.
Russia is destabilizing the west by influencing people like you, which creates a divide. Ever heard of the term “divide and conquer”? It’s a pretty serious thing.
Yes I have heard of that phrase, as have most people I think.
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