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I have trouble with using tone in my words but not interpreting tone from others’ words. Weird, isn’t it?

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  • And given that experience I of course did not follow up with another thread, just to experience the same thing.

    If they had commented in the new thread, suspension would be definite. IMO, locking it would be a good choice, since if that user commented on the new thread, they’s very likely to be stalking you and have a concrete reason to get punished. I’m sure the only disruptive user got a formal warning.

    As for being unable to report, that’s because of default policies by Discourse, the forum software used by EOS: You can only flag posts after reading 30 posts across 5 topics for 10 minutes. The Manjaro forums use the same forums and configuration. (Not as in exactly the same, just the same on this front.)

    It lists a bunch of inconsequential things when it comes to the distro.

    You seem to have skipped over the part about shipping the M1 kernel 3 days after its first demo with bugs. They then PR’d a commit they obviously did not understand to archlinuxarm, a much smaller project unaffilated with ARM, causing breakage. This was in October 2022.

    The SSL certificates of their websites I really don’t give a damn about but people then keep saying “yeah but if they are sloppy there then…”, without being able to provide examples where the distro was ever affected by it.

    The SSL certificate expiring means you are not able to connect to Manjaro servers to update anything. No Manjaro packages at all can be upgraded or installed while the SSL certificate’s expired. That’s pretty big.

    And if you’re super paranoid, just update the AUR when Manjaro updates.

    But when Manjaro gives you updates from two weeks prior, AUR gives you new updates from today.

    Holding updates does not make the system more secure

    Holding all updates for two weeks is just a dumb design choice:

    They do have a different testing system now—with a good justification of being quite a different system from Arch—where all updates are pushed to a test branch and errors are caught, supposedly. I say supposedly because that did not stop the AUR being DDOS’d for the 2nd time under the same exact system in 2021.

    This is all on top on the fact that Manjaro has officially said that they are not Arch, albeit based on Arch. Though at the end of the day, anyone is of course free to use whatever they wants. Manjaro has done some wonderful work for everyone. It’s just I need to wait until at least 2028 to trust it.




  • Could you link to the thread? I had a good experience with the forums. It sounds like they locked it to prevent people from sending more bullying comments and suspended everyone.

    Most of it is just a bunch of “what if” scenarios that never happened.

    The link lists a bunch of things that did happen, along with the thing on partial upgrades, which is guidance on the Arch wiki.







  • Are you saying that creating literally all the code that make those usability improvements possible is not worthy of praise?

    No, but Microsoft and IBM didn’t create that code.

    Do you only praise the window washer and not the architect or construction worker who built the building?

    That’s not a good analogy. The above-ground building is userspace, the foundation and the window washer are the kernel.

    UX is important but so is the literal foundation it’s built on.

    I’m not dissenting against that. However, the Linux kernel’s foundation has been built to a point where recent contributions to userspace dwarf that to the kernel. Remember, we’re thanking valve for the modern Linux desktop gaming experience. Next thing I know you’re going to go on a diatribe against System76 as well. When I buy a bauble, you’re going to chastise me for praising the designer instead of the plastic worker.

    And again, Valve also contributes to the kernel, so they’re definitely much more worthy of praise, especially without doing Microsoft’s shady stuff.

    This has become boring, and I’m not going to reply further unless you come up with an argument worthy enough for a high school debate club, especially since you’ve recently been following Fann Tzu’s “just downvote and don’t reply”.