Of course there is. A genocide could be worsened by increasing the rate or killing, the tools available, the loss of global consequences, etc. “Turbo” is used as an offhand way to indicate faster/more/worse.

Conversely slowing a genocide allows more time for people to escape, more time for global interventions, peace talks, etc.

There will be condos on their homes now

They enabled turbo genocide. The position is bankrupt as it assumes inaction is faultless and clean.

I’ll admit my leading question was facetious.

My point is that an action was taken against democrats on the topic of Gaza, and yet, the crisis and genocide continue. It was obvious this would happen if trump won, plus a slew of other impacts on at risk people around the world, beyond the admittedly unsatisfactory status quo of the Biden admin. So what societal good was done by not helping keep trump out?

America is still participating. Who’s the president ?

Ok

Pre 2016 reddit front page was not as you describe. I’m not saying it was perfect, I’m saying open conservative concepts were not prevalent or popular.

Imperialism isn’t unique to right wing

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Hits white ball on to white surface…

Baseball “I live with Santa now cya”

They aren’t pictured here but yes they are very good (and invasive in many places)

I don’t think OP or the author are trying to reason with fascists, they are speaking to uninformed average Americans.

If someone already has the opinion that birthright citizenship should be removed, there’s no reasoning to even flirt with

If left-wing covers all concepts left of center, and many mild left policy still incorporates capitalism, then it can’t be reduced that strictly. I could agree that progressive or far left policy isn’t compatible with capitalism

Edit either way, we disagree on semantics. It’s off topic for the original question now (I’m not sticking that on you, I contributed to this semantic rabbit hole)

To circle it back, I think there’s a way to invite “normies”, maintain left leaning (even very left leaning) positions, and not compromise the platform.

Edit edit and I think that’s possible without purity testing or shotgunning people with theory

When did I suggest that would be a leftist? Maybe reread. Specifically the end.

He may hold left opinions on LGBTQ+ issues but hold completely contracting, non left wing opinions elsewhere. We can be sure that’s true. He’s certainly not a leftist, and likely not a left wing voter either.

Ultimately I’d highlight that you are doing the.thing: you are purity testing very broad language in a completely useless way

To be hyper clear for you:

Left WING is not leftIST

LeftIST is left WING

You’re ina thread authored by an canadian about “normies”. North American concepts matter.

Edit even wherever you’re from “left wing” (the scope of center to far left) exists, just the starting point of center is unique.

Further, your purity test determination leaves no room for the varied mins of people all over the world. For example fiscal centrists who are socially progressive. You may call that a false leftist, but I’d just say they’re a mild left wing voter. I bet if they weren’t purity tested they’d eventually shift their perspective on fiscal matters leftward.

Point being people hold varied political opinions, sometimes in complete contrast to themselves. I bet there’s some completely theory pure fiscal leftists who don’t believe in abortion rights, or some other bizarre combo

10s of millions of “left wing” (read, the entire spectrum from center to marx) folks believe that, for better or worse.

That opinion is entirely valid as “left wing” but certainly isn’t very left, on an absolute scale.

I believe they wrote it so they won’t happen “2 consecutive terms” clause

Seriously people here seem to attach politics to a picture of a sandwich if God forbid the company logo is on the paper to the side.

But an account means nothing, just make a new one on an instance that also aligns with your expectations

Until r/TheDonald you wouldn’t really see right wing concepts on the frontpage.

Left “wing” in normie US is a broad neighborhood.

Left “ism” in normie US is a study of progressive politics with deviation from center exponentially growing as you go “more left”.

Lots of “left wing” folks in the US are low on the leftism deviation curve, but due to the way things work in the US they are definitely “left wing”.

So you absolutely get fiscal centrists with much “lefter” social opinions. And other “left-lite” view combos.

I think to grow Lemmy non combative, but non compromising spaces should exist. Much how some are warped right by spending too much time in the “manosphere” content, folks can be convinced of increasingly progressive politics by being welcomed here. Mind, I’m not saying anyone should cater to anything they don’t agree with, but God damn Lemmy could be less combative. Purity testing mild left folks drives them right. You don’t have to compromise your morals or positions to accomplish this.

So I’d close by saying Americans aren’t “confused” about anything, they’re just less exposed with further left policy / theory, due to being exposed most to milder progressive concepts.

On the right, maga is remarkable because it’s drawing many conservatives quickly up the exponential deviation ladder at a quantity not really seen before.