MischievousTomato

hahahaha nice. I hope I don’t have to dual boot windows. My laptop is fast enough for VMs

I never went back to windows. I had my stuff in a separate partition so when I went back to Fedora or Arch, I had my stuff there

Your 2 big positives are stuff I agree with wholeheartedly. But I’m still holding out on using flatpak because it feels like an incomplete solution still. There’s many things with it I could work around, definitely, but it feels annoying and with NixOS I don’t have to worry about those issues because stuff just works for me.

As for FS, I wanted to love it, but doing some stuff with it is annoying. I wish it let you install stuff with dnf to /usr/local (like how it is on bsds or also macs with brew iirc).

Organizing my thoughs: I would love a future where flatpak just works, the sandboxing is nice and all you need is to click “yes” or “no” when an app wants/needs something, where you don’t even need to use your distro’s package manager (or you can’t even use it because the distro is immutable and it updates on its own), but we’re not yet there. Installing fonts on FS was a nightmare, and I had to layer stuff like powertop and other stuff I don’t remember right now. Also flatpak isn’t yet a good solution for development with VScode or similar stuff.

That’s not the point, because it’s not what the OP asked for

If you’re gonna be like that I could also suggest to OP to move to Windows or MacOS 🤷‍♂️

For many it’s a radical change in paradigm, and I assume many just want to understand it well

I wish I knew. I learned of it and started playing with it last year, with me using it full time since Feb of 2023, with a couple of hopping and then coming back to NixOS

NixOS is as mature as arch, I’d say, but because of its nature it has issues here and there, but rarely so.

That said, the learning curve for nix/nixos is very very very steep, so good luck learning. It took me a while for me to use it nicely, and even then, I’m nothing more than a beginner. Even so, I’m quite comfortable and pretty much can’t use any other linux distro.

I am more worried about them dropping packages to push users to use flatpaks.

nixos so kino

just keep on going. i cant be happy on any other distro, so i have to use nixos

Nixos. For all its complexity and dilemmas and issues it has given me, it’s the comfiest for me and gives me really cool features

I dont have links in hand, but I remember the flatpak devs saying they targeted/care about desktop gui apps. It’s one of the reasons why I won’t use flatpaks anytime soon if ever

I only use Gentoo for a small bit, so I can’t comment on it, and I haven’t used the other thing ever. I wish linux a culture similar to the bsds when it came to ports stuff. /usr/local is barely used if ever.

Same. Exactly. Packaging can be a bit more complex, but once you get it, it’s great. There’s even the NUR, but I havent used it.

It’s so kino. Incredibly hard to learn and much more to master, but much more powerful. Nothing beats easily modifying a derivation’s source, or adding patches or build options or whatever you want.

Things are getting better as snaps and flatpaks gain popularity, but both of those systems have lots of issues of their own, and arguably aren’t anywhere near as good as a proper native package for your distro. Flatpaks don’t really work for CLI tools. Snaps are stupidly slow. Both snaps and flatpaks still struggle with theming. Applications installed with either take up way more space than their natively-packaged equivalents.

Flatpaks would beat native packages if they didn’t have a trillion papercuts and issues. I’m on NixOS because I want to avoid using flatpak.

Fedora has COPR, Opensuse has the OBS (which also works for other distros), NixOS (my beloved) has overlays…