https://youtu.be/bTqU4bKycFo

In what way are both sides unhappy?

Except her pre-transition fastest 1000 free was faster than the record for female 1000 free.

To add on to that. Her pre-transition time was ~24 seconds slower than the male record and post transition her 1000 free was about 32 seconds slower than the female record. So if anything she was preforming better in her categories before she transitioned.

Oh my god your mor pathetick then i thoght. Corecting grammer online and folloing my replys

You’re ablest

Don’t think your ex ever had photo evidence in that case, don’t be willfully obtuse

You’re right that’s possible but that’s definitely not what either of their body languages imply

You were the abused partner in an abusive relationship with the women being the perpetrator. Your scenario ended with your abuser convincing you to stay. This scenario is clearly the one where the person being cheated on is breaking it off. Just because there was cheating involved in your story and a sit down in your story does not make your experience anywhere near analogous with what is going on in the picture.

You don’t know him, you don’t know her. For all you know if she did what you said and just broke it off she’d get a torrent of “babe come back I’ll never do it again it was only one time babe please ur my love” messages for months. Your scenario ended with the abuser convincing you to stay. This is clearly the one being cheated on breaking it off

You are projecting a very unlikely scenario due to your own experiences. The most likely scenario here is that she caught him cheating and didn’t want to leave him room to deny so she printed the proof for when she confronted him.

“I’ve been in similar situations”

describes completely different situation

Not excusing the cheating because it’s a shitty thing to do, but humans are very complex and you don’t know what he feels towards her. He could genuinely love her but due to emotional problems on his end he cheats (fear of attachment for example)

Again not excusing his behavior but things were never as simple as you’re making it out to be.

Is anyone asking for that though? To make it illegal to have regular pictures of children in these datasets?

I was responding to this part of your comment which directly refers to legality

No but it is a reason why generating csam should be illegal. You’re using data trained on pictures of real kids

At that point it’s still using photos of children to generate csam even if you could somehow assure the model is 100% free of csam

If you don’t understand that then I’m done here because you either don’t understand what “ai” does on a fundamental level or you don’t understand how big the difference is between adult and child bodies.

This is a gross conversion to be having on something that is so wrong to do on so many levels.

You can’t make an ethno state without genocide so it is wrong and pointless to talk about

You can’t make ai csam without harming a child so it is wrong and pointless to talk about

Just like how you can’t generate a child without pictures of children to base it on you can’t generate them naked without pictures of their bodies. There is a reason pedos are attracted to those bodies and not women with no curves/small men.

I work with children, I see them everyday. The difference is so massive that an ai would not be able to approximate it with just photos of adults. Ai doesn’t “know” anything it just has photos that it uses to approximate what is being asked based off it’s data. Even if you kept describing in more detail what those bodies looked like it wouldn’t be able to create it without anything to base it on. It’d be like creating a van gogh style picture with no van gogh training data, no matter how much you try to describe the details of his style you’ll never get the ai to make something like it without the training data.

You can keep disagreeing, keep saying “but with more data” but ai can’t make anything original, that is a fundamental misunderstanding of it’s abilities. If it doesn’t have the data it can’t accurately do it.

Now think of the photos that don’t have any matching hashes. Social media has a ton of csam and as long as they scrape from Facebook/insta/twitter or from porn sites with no verification system they will continue to have csam in their training data.

I don’t see a reason to discuss if it’s possible to to something if the thing that’s being done is morally wrong. If you disagree then let’s talk about making a white ethno state or if we can do another Holocaust since morality doesn’t matter when discussing hypotheticals

You can’t generate csam without photos of children to make up the actual child part of the picture. It doesn’t matter if you actually use csam you’re still using photos of children to make pornography. Unless you think ai could create a van gogh style picture without any van gogh training data (and if you do then you don’t know enough about ai generated photos to talk about them with any authority)

It’s obviously accidental, but that doesn’t change that it happened and is something that will be near impossible to avoid as long as they continue to scrape data in the way they do for their models. They would need a human to filter it out like they already use for most LLMs.

The bodies of children are not just small versions of adult bodies.There are meaningful differences that an ai wouldn’t be able to just guess. Also do you not see any problem in using photos of real children to generate csam? Imagine someone used a picture of your child/niece/nephew to generate porn. Does that not feel wrong to you? It’s still using real photos of real children either way, even if it’s abstracted through training data.

Except you can’t know that. CSAM has been found in training data already and as long as they pull from social media they will continue to be trained with more.

https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/news/investigation-finds-ai-image-generation-models-trained-child-abuse