Dunno why this thread is filled with people equating Hezbollah and Hamas

Because the kind of person who sides with Israel heavily overlaps with the kind of person who assumes that everyone in the Middle East is the same and that they’re all terrorists.

5 - it’s just imperialism. They want to control more territory, so they do

Your definition of imperialism is straight out of the 3rd century BC, comrade.

Hyper focusing on the 11- or 9-dash line is a lie by omission. China’s usage of and claims to the area predate the Republic of China too, and are established in multiple treaties signed by the Qing with colonialist powers, which is what I was referring to. Like it or not the PRC is the successor government to the ROC even though the ROC still exists in Taiwan, that’s why the PRC eventually took over the UN security council seat, and because of that by precedent the PRC inherits the ROC’s territorial claims, who inherited them from the Qing.

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Cry harder western shill.

80% of the world’s solar panels come from China and more than half of their electrical grid is from non-fossil sources. Coal plants are used as backups where they are still used at all. I’m sorry bud but it is simply an objective fact that China has invested more into a green energy transition than anyone else on this Earth.

at some point the Roman empire claimed it

False comparison. The treaties that established their claim is from the 19th century and were signed by their direct predecessor state.

but we’re not comfortable with how they run things

If you’re not comfortable with totally eliminating extreme poverty, taking the largest steps of any country on the planet to combat climate change, and having a democratic government that exercises control over the capitalists rather than the other way around, then your comfort is not something worth caring about.

China does not recognize the international tribunal’s ruling.

The international tribunal did not have the standing to make the ruling that it did. China’s claim to the ECS predates the UN and the international court, the UN (lead by the USA) stole control over the sea and retroactively legalized their theft while China was fighting a civil war.

For the record, Taiwan claims precisely the same thing. But they’re a US-backed puppet regime so they can’t move against the US the way that the PRC can.

I would be a responsible gun owner

-Every single gun owner (self included ofc)

I’ve visited the museums in China, truly among the most inspiring places on this earth. The world’s largest and most powerful country is also its most free.

Not really.

The fundamental critique of capitalism is that not even the capitalists are really in charge. Marx lays out quite thoroughly in Capital that the profit motive is what’s actually in charge, and the capitalists are just along for the ride, and that any attempt by the capitalists to flex their power in a way that the market cannot abide will result in them losing their privileged status and being replaced by a different capitalist who will better serve the needs of the profit motive.

By contrast, socialist systems are run by people. That makes them flexible and able to serve the needs of society in a way that capitalist societies simply aren’t. And yes, people are capable of mistakes, failure, and betrayal; but so too are they capable of insight, success, and solidarity. The best of existing socialist societies past and present is when they buck the demands of the market and provide for their people in ways that capitalist societies don’t, and the worst of socialist societies is invariably the things that they are required to do in order to maintain their existence on a predominantly capitalist world.

The worst things that happen are when students lock the door to a building, or when fascist counter protestors (often in police uniforms) show up and escalate shit.

Americans live in one of the police states of all time. Capitalism can only produce this result, there is no alternative, because the ruling class knows just as well as the socialists do that the contradictions will only keep getting worse and the protests will only keep getting bigger but of course instead of wanting to change the equation to produce a different result like the socialists do the capitalists want to cling to power by any means necessary.

And then setting the car they’re sitting in on fire.

Those are the rules when you’re occupied by a foreign military. Imagine if Russia had control over all of Ukraine - people in occupied Kyiv would be justified in attacking Russia, but Russia would not be justified in retaliating against the Ukrainians.

If Israel wants to make it so that the Palestinians don’t have every right to retaliate against them, they would have to end the occupation, the blockade, the settlements, etc.

I think they assumed that Israel wouldn’t be so bloodthirsty as to put the hostages at risk, which would give them a bargaining position so that once they weathered the initial retaliation they would be able to get concessions such as allowing Palestinians to leave Gaza, ending the blockade of Gaza’s ports, ending Israeli control of Gazan water sources, etc.

But as we’ve all learned since then the IDF has an explicit policy to kill Israeli civilians if it looks like they’re about to be captured, and Israel’s political leadership simply aren’t put off by the possibility of killing every single remaining hostage in their campaign to flatten Gaza.

Like all things it’s a spectrum. This conflict has been about 1% a war between Hamas and the IDF, and 99% the IDF indiscriminately killing civilians.

Israel is an occupying/besieging force and Hamas’ attack against them was justified morally, ethically, and under international law. Israel’s retaliation against the entire population of Gaza is completely unjustified, and completely illegal.