Everyone does wrong things in wars. However, yes that belief is egregious and should be rectified.

Just one?

I think this is a false equivilance. One knife manufacturer doesn’t control all the knives on the market. Telegram had the ability to do something about it and didn’t.

I agree somewhat because of the premined coins fiasco but I’m not sure what else you could be referring to, if anything.

XMPP is not viable imo because of its approach to ‘standards’ and XEPs and that its e2ee is not always on and can be turned off, not to mention not necessarily not all that good encryption to begin with since most clients still use the old versions of OMEMO and the other methods of e2ee for it don’t (yet) have PFS.

even the things that replaced it at this point are getting run into the ground and require replacing.

How so and what ‘mass market’ messengers are there that could replace them?

I have scoured and tried many messengers and most of them are just plain either not there yet or never will be.

The only one that is actually private and good I have come across is Signal and it doesn’t seem like it is either “run into the ground” nor does it “need replacing”.

I just don’t see anything else becoming ‘mass market’ as most of them are too niche or are developed only for tech obsessives and paranoid folks, with either not always on e2ee or suspect business practices or just not on all platforms or never will be.

Okay? Pirating isn’t fun?

Anyway, what about the other issues I mentioned with SimpleX such as funding/business structure and no easy syncing?

You are assuming a lot about me, which is fair since I didn’t give much to work with, but not accurate. Though, Android tablets are not all that great in my experience with them.

SimpleX isn’t a fun or customisable messenger, so most people will not use it until it has the other features that Telegram or Signal have. Its funding sources/business structure are suspect, it could easily end up sold off and/or enshitified.

Also, SimpleX doesn’t have easy or in some cases possible (as it isn’t possible to access the file structure completely on some OSs) profile/message syncing on all platforms.

Finally, SimpleX isn’t fully compatible with all devices and sticks them in an awful looking mode with no prioritised plans to fix this, Telegram and a few others don’t have this problem.

Briar isn’t on all platforms yet, so that’s why there.

That isn’t really what I was talking about, but I understand the confusion.

I meant the people utilising the platform to upload videos etc to get paid.

Eh, I don’t know if it was illegitimate or not considering he allowed abuse to carry on on the platform for years and due to no encryption it was well known about.

I hope either people using the platform or telegram itself learn their lesson and the people using it leave for better platforms or telegram finally add meaningful encryption and stop pretending that they can sit back and do nothing.

No, I’m not suggesting abuse should be allowed to carry on just because it moved to encrypted messengers, nor that all the ‘illegal’ things that happened on it are bad (something being illegal doesn’t mean it is unethical inherently), just that those doing nothing unethical deserve protection and telegram doesn’t provide it.

As for the rest well, they deserve to be taken down and kept well away from anything that would enable them to abuse.

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Imagine using a messenger without meaningful end-to-end encryption and expecting privacy and no moderation forever.

[Sincere] Would you like solutions to this or would you prefer not to use it?

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Imagine using a messenger without meaningful end-to-end encryption and expecting privacy and no moderation forever.

How is it different to other fedi projects/instances surviving off of donations?

Most will likely block the adverts anyway, so I fail to see how it’ll make money that way.

Why not just pay them? I feel like fedi is based more on that than ads, a lot of us on fedi hate ads.

So no, and it doesn’t even appear to be on that list.

Cool, seems like eventually they will.

As with reddit / lemmy, I doubt a viable alternative will emerge until youtube has become well and truly offensive.

Even after it has this is very unlikely because part of the appeal of youtube is getting paid for work and most people either don’t have the money to pay for it, choose not to or hate the platforms through which creators ask to get paid through.

Like it or not, either it’ll be another tech company who will later do this exact same thing or we need more people willing to pay and less shitty platforms through which they can do so i.e. not VC backed/supported.

Have they added safety features like denying follows yet?

Also, they really need to create apps for all platforms, this would increase their popularity and usability.

Some piped instances are still working, thankfully.

They have no sense of irony, heh.

[Joke] Time to put burgers on the blockchain.