And I learn something every day. ;-)

Aim on Day 1 of yunohost. Running on a VPS Today but planning on moving it to a local server when I get my OpenWrt routing sorted out .

So this is 100% a really common situation. I don’t know any of my friends that aren’t hovering at about 96% of their gmail capacity and don’t want to pay. In fact that’s me today. Hence I’ve been looking around at self hosted alternatives and had previously looked at extracting my emails from Google and loading them in from local storage into Thunderbird - However I was playing around with Yunohost today and randomly uncovered this page - https://yunohost.org/es/email_migration I’m not sure how relevant it is but points to potentially some approaches. I can’t vouch for them but I’d love to hear from anyone who has used imapsync or larch

I’m on day one of Yunohost after months of trying to work out how to approach hosting things like Nextcloud and struggling through bare metal installations, trying to slowly get my head around Docker. Its like suddenly seeing the light … I mean I really didn’t think I would almost have an email server running today. (Its this a dangerous thing?)

I have a friend that uses the Go Cardless for importing data into FireFlyIII for several months now (May at least six) https://docs.firefly-iii.org/tutorials/data-importer/gocardless/ - Happy to put you in touch if you want to talk to them. - I’d actually like to find a UK Credit Union that would support data import for Selfhosted people. I think there would a really good fit. I’m also on day one of using YunoHost to spin up self hosted applications (Today on a VPS tomorrow on my local RaspberryPi ) I might fire up an instance of Actual.

I’d love to know how many people use Actual / Firefly to demonstrate that there would be interest for a Credit Union to look at offering such a service.

Sorry that should be coopcloud.tech

I have been looking.at the same thing. Basically alternatives to Google Workplace or MSFT 365.

https://lemmy.ml/post/21772726. I think most people are using a hosting providers email and web hosting and then maybe running Nextcloud and other apps themselves though there are some providers who are doing integrated email and Nextcloud.

There are things like coopcloud.tech and yunohost.org that appear to be trying to provide.out of the box self hosting ‘recipies’ Im just starting to look at yunohost but just for me / the family. - Id personally love to meet people and work through using these together as I am not an expert. It would seem that these might be the ‘killer app’ for self hosted alternative cloud services but Im not sure and they might not be quite mature enough. I have know knowledge of the admin overhead.

Google and MSFTs free for non-profits mean that clubs/small charities end up using those two anyway.

coopcloud.tech

They have a handy comparison - https://docs.coopcloud.tech/intro/comparisons/ might look at Yunohost - If anyone has any experience I’d been keen to catch up. I’m a newbie though

Yeah there does seem to be some crossover. I get the feeling that coop.tech is thinking more standardised solutions for multiple people / organisations where dokploy is more bespoke . configs individuals/ individual orgs.

I think this is more where you run a kiosk and you can (using cli) deploy an instance of a selection of apps per domain. Its all Opensource.

elfhost seems to be a commercial service to sell you deployment of SaaS hosted aps. ( But it looks like to bundles deployment and hosting - Im not sure)

What I am trying to understand is whether coopcloud are trying to bring those apps together to work in standard integrated ways - Or just be able to spin them up.

e.g. Having out of the box ldap, email and Nextcloud instances that work nicely together would be appealing. Drop a domain in. Spin up an instance and you are off.

I’m not going to provide an answer here but more a point and perhaps complicate things a little more - With ActivityPub and other open Federated protocols - The Platform that you use and the client that you select can be different. I use a Mastodon account and Friendica account with FediLab as my mobile client. I guess you are looking for the feature set and then UI for both Desktop and Mobile.

I kind of like the document but I’m struggling with all the cookies given that its hosted on xda-developers.com. In the eat your own dogfood kind of way… Do you have your own host that you could serve this up from? Wordpress?

I want to be independent. My understanding is that Tail scale relies on a service they run or a endpoint you run on a VPS - Is that right?

Yeah been using No-ip free but I worry that one day I will forget to confirm and ill ge cut-off.

Yeah maybe I need to consider this.

Be aware of the risks of hosting your websites publicly from home, make sure to run them in very isolated environments. Having your VPS compromised is bad, but having your home network compromised is much worse!

Agree - Not something I will throw myself into.

Yes I use no-ip but have to confirm the domain name every month or so and cant use my own domain on the free tier. (Maybe im just being cheap) - Also I haven’t been able to figure out how I would use / get SSL certificates.

Wow thanks everyone. I think I need to take another look at some of the DynDNS provides and digest all your great feedback.

Id like to go beyond personal self hosting stuff and maybe run some stuff that requires Federation. Im just thinking at the moment.

I guess it depends if you want to put edge compute in each room. os just audio freeds to something central. But long term I’d avoid anything that uses any propriety service.

My two cents : Id make sure anything you got was based on Bluetooth audio and had a microphone. Then what ever you link them together with software wise doesn’t matter. You could put them together and run HomeAssistant or Openvoiceos for interaction or just have a media player running somewhere that feeds each room.