They definitely think they’re the good guys, both the men and women. Not many people knowingly choose to be villains. They are convinced that their ideals are just and true, and their opponents are godless child-murderers and rapists.
I didn’t exactly need the ending explained, but Everything Everywhere All At Once has so much going on that I got really hyper focused on looking up commentary for everything in the movie. There were a lot of things I missed so I found it really valuable beyond just wanting to deep dive every little detail haha.
Surprisingly, after all the hype of Interstellar being incredibly confusing, I felt like I missed something because it seemed fairly straightforward (not the plot, which was obviously convoluted, just that I understood the ending). Then I looked up explanations of the ending and they fit my interpretation so that was a bit anticlimactic lol
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Fuck yea! Been waiting ages. Season 1 was so good it made me binge read all the comics in less than a week, and I almost never read comics. I got very little sleep and neglected several responsibilities lol.
The movie doesn’t advocate for a matriarchy, it shows how terribly it impacted Ken and led to his “revolution”. It didn’t push “men bad”, it pushed “patriarchy bad, matriarchy bad”. It showed how the patriarchy leads to toxic masculinity and how that negatively impacts both men and women. The film is a flavor of corporate feminism so there’s no chance it was going to criticize capitalism (it would be cooler if it did), but it does a great job of pointing out how the patriarchy has hurt everyone.
I’ve watched the video. It’s a great critique of the corporate feminism in the movie. But it fails to back up your claim that Barbie has no cultural introspection.
The movie certainly does a garbage job of addressing the body image issues perpetuated by the brand. And it gives the company way too much cutesy-funness in an attempt to tame down the corporate hate it would receive. But not every feminist movie can cover every feminist topic. If every movie had to be a perfect representation of every feminist issue, we would have 0 feminist movies.
IMO, the biggest theme of the movie is how the patriarchy negatively impacts both men and women. That is feminist, and is strongly culturally introspective. We have very few movies that discuss toxic masculinity and its impact on our culture, Barbie is a good start.
Then you weren’t paying attention. The movie has plenty of cultural introspection, particularly how the patriarchy impacts both men and women. Yes it was definitely a giant toy ad, but it wasn’t just that.
tell me you didn’t watch the movie without telling me you didn’t watch the movie
very true! I do think there are proportionally more women here than Reddit, just based on personal observation, but I have no way of knowing the numbers. With mastodon a lot of people put their gender in their bio so I can easily find women to follow and give myself a really woman-dominated feed, even if mastodon in general is still dominated by men.
True, it makes sense that people in the UK would not relate in the same way. I know there are patriarchal issues in the UK as well, but I don’t know how UK people view those issues.
There’s nothing about the movie that should be offensive to a man. It is critical of how the patriarchy impacts both men and women. Any offense is directed at the patriarchy itself. If a man finds that offensive, they should evaluate which parts of the patriarchy they so closely identify with.
Well, if you were from a southern US state, I would’ve bet that everyone you know hated it because they’re conservative and think it’s “man-hating”. I don’t know anything about UK geopolitical leanings though.
Everyone I know (who actually saw it) loved it, where do you live lol
Yes, my 50 year old parents went because they frequent lemmy so often 🙄 I went again for the reasons I described, there are very few movies that feel the way this movie does. Comments from randos != marketing
Edit: OR is this a joke that completely went over my head, because you’re MargotRobbie 🤔
Thanks for the clarification. I think the reason so many men think the movie is about Ken is due to them ignoring the feminist themes in the movie, rather than a fault of the movie making Ken too much of a focus. He was absolutely hysterical, but the humor felt superficial—the focus was still on how a matriarcal or patriarchal society is severely flawed.
When I watched Alien as a kid, feminism was not on my mind. I’ve gotta watch it again! I agree, it’s hard to find female-lead action movies that don’t just feel like “yay, now men can enjoy guns, explosions, fight scenes, and a hot chick!” Kill Bill mostly works for me, minus the foot fetish that Tarantino can’t help but insert, and knowing how he treated her during filming puts a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe I should take that out lol. Woman King was brilliant though, I really want to watch that again. I also have Gunpowder Milkshake on my list, my SIL said it’s basically John Wick but with women, and damn that would really do it for me.
I had several issues with She-Hulk that ultimately made me stop watching. But I’m not here to shit on one of the few shows that scratch that itch for other women. I’m really glad the show gave you that joy :)
My b lol, you won’t hear any more slander from me. Dang, I wish I could send you some of my coworkers to talk to! Meaning they would be missed, they’re awesome women and you would love chatting with them.
I actually joined mastodon recently so I could listen to/chat with more women who share my views. I’m finding Lemmy still a bit dominated by men, a bit too much like Reddit in that regard, but on mastodon I’ve been slowly finding exactly what I’m looking for. I’ve found some great recommendations for movies and books by women, POC, and LGBTQ+ people, it’s been really refreshing. I was never on twitter so it’s weird to adjust to, but it’s actually serving a healthy purpose in my life
Yes!! There are flaws with all of those movies, but it’s hard to be choosey when there are so few movies that feel like this. Everything Everywhere All At Once also kind of scratches this itch for me, though in a more broad sense due to the wide range of ideas it covered. I’m super glad to talk about Barbie with other women! It has been great seeing all the women I work with embracing a side of themselves that has historically been shit on.
I’ve seen this opinion from a lot of men, about 80% of the top comments on the Reddit mega thread were about how Ken “made the movie”. I’ve talked to a lot women about this, and every one of them has essentially said “of course they think it’s about the man”. It’s a bit frustrating, honestly, to see this opinion everywhere. I do not see how he could be seen as the focus of the movie. I loved Ken of course, but you missed a big point of the movie if your main takeaway is how great Ken was.
I’m glad you feel that way. I have a lot of family down south who 100% think we’re all evil and that our explicit goal is to destroy America. Even in this thread there is someone saying liberals want to murder babies.