even Valve told Ubuntu users to use the Flatpak for Steam instead of the Snap

Hahaha really? That’s awesome. I wonder if Canonical will ever take the hint that nobody wants Snap when better, more open alternatives exist

Yeah, package manager is a big one. Many of us got burned by rpm’s early on and just avoided all rpm-based distros since then.

Of course as you say that hasn’t been a problem for over 10 years but the scars haven’t gone away.

I’d only recommend Ubuntu to someone if I knew they knew some else using Ubuntu (so I could tell them to hassle that person instead of me when they have problems).

Otherwise, I’d absolutely recommend Fedora, because it’s actually up to date unlike Debian. I use it myself because it tends to have the best of what the open source community has to offer while not needing constant tweaking

And then managers go “why does shadow IT exist?”

…you have my condolences

As someone who works, flatpak’s solve a bunch of problems, freeing me up to continue working.

Security issues are just a class of issue; no more or less important than other issues

Yep, being familiar with the data model is 98% of the effort.

The remaining 2% is the query

But it’s genuinely what we were all doing not so long ago

Jokes on you, my first job was editing files directly in production. It was for a webapp written in Classic ASP. To add a new feature, you made a copy of the current version of the page (eg index2_new.asp became index2_new_v2.asp) and developed your feature there by hitting the live page with your web browser.

When you were ready to deploy, you modified all the other pages to link to your new page

Good times!

It’s more like android apps from early versions of Android before the permissions became user-managable.

It won’t prompt you to give the application access to certain permissions, all the permissions are predefined in the manifest by whoever published the application to flathub. When you run the application you just hope it won’t cause too much havoc (you can of course verify the permissions before running it, but I guarantee most people won’t)

Flatpak supports sandboxing but due to how most desktop applications want access to your home folder, network etc many apps simply disable it.

Regardless of the level of sandboxing applied to the app, Flatpak is a great way for a developer to package once run anywhere. Prior to Flatpak, if you wanted to support multiple distros, you had to build a package for each distro or hope somebody working on that distro would do it for you.

Inb4 AppImage was here first. And if you mention Snap then GTFO

The first thing I noticed. I was confused, thinking maybe they had an old XP machine lying around to plug in after the main one failed, but then I read further and it was just a stunt

Hybrids: the worst of both worlds.

If you want to keep relying on gasoline then just buy an ICE car

It’s an acquired taste. Back when I was a starving student and everyone was drinking cheap alcohol and living off 2-minute noodles, I acquired the taste

Let’s say your country was about to be invaded, your house stolen and you sent elsewhere or killed so that citizens of the invading country could occupy your house and your land instead.

And all of that not happening was hinged on the physical prowess of an old guy who’s probably been in politics for decades.

How helpless would you feel?

Tbh im incredulous that explicit sync wasnt a thing from day 1.

Like what kind of sane API have you ever used that didn’t allow you to buffer / queue up operations and then flush them all at once?

Why would I avoid politics on the politics platform?

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

If I had a dollar for the number of BS CVE’s submitted by security hopefuls trying to pad their resumes…

Well, as far as I’m concerned Skype for Business set the benchmark for terrible. Teams isn’t even close to being that level of bad

Teams is relative.

At a previous job (Microsoft shop but in the public sector so 10 years behind), the standard messenger when I started was Skype for Business.

In case you’ve never used Skype for Business, it’s “Skype” in branding only and actually has nothing to do with the Skype software that Microsoft purchased and is more like MSN Messenger.

Compared to that, Teams is a huge step up.

Also, at a Microsoft shop, you have to use what Microsoft provides even though it’s usually balls.

It’s 90% of the reason I now refuse to work anywhere that’s bought into the Microsoft ecosystem. It’s just so… mediocre

Yes, you can sideload apps from this century into Debian and run them in an isolated environment with dependencies also from this century :)

Tbh I’m surprised that the Debian kernel is new enough to support cgroups /s

Who cares?

Ubuntu is a shell of what it once was. They’re not going to make Snap optional, they need to justify its existence by releasing everything as snaps with no alternative so you have to use it.

Or, just use Debian if you like Debian-style distros?

Or, wait for it - this is gonna sound a bit radical but hear me out - give Fedora a try? Flatpak instead and unlike Debian Stable has packages from this century

Inb4 btw I use Arch