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Cake day: July 1st, 2023

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  • maybe AI will too one say, who knows?

    One can hope.

    The key difference here between this and photography, though, is that photography only displaced painters. You can tell by looking whether something is a photograph or not. Usually.

    AI is very good and will only get better. When the machine can replicate any style, any subject, 3,000 times a minute: what is left for people to even do? How will you ever know a person was there?

    If these tools were built to be honest, such that you always knew when something was generated and when something wasn’t, I wouldn’t have nearly as much of a problem with it.




  • Have you painted landscapes and portraits?

    Yes.

    I tried AI art once to see what it was about and it took a lot of time with prompts to get anything useful out.

    So does passing a kidney stone.

    I don’t care about effort, I want to know what you have to say. I want to see what you’ve learned. I want you to show me something about your life.

    If this were math, I want you to show me your work.

    In the things you’ve made, you are the only thing I give a shit about. You’ve made things with AI? Show me where you are in them, then. Are you even real? Do you exist? Should I care you were ever even here?

    If you think photography doesn’t achieve these things, boy, let me tell you about AI then.


    To onlookers: if you’re wondering why I’m not addressing the lazy and uninteresting hypocrisy arguments, it’s because they don’t mean anything.

    Painters used to be mad at photographers? Okay. They get along now, why is that? Does anyone even care? Did they simply forget they were pissed at each other? Was Mercury in retrograde?

    The only purpose of these arguments is to make you doubt yourself. They don’t advocate for anything. They don’t suggest a goal, or a resolution, or a compromise, they’re just rhetorical chess moves—“neener neener” and tongue wagging.






  • in your example of cupcakes they actually talked about noticing how you felt and the reason why they gave you the cupcake.

    But that’s… what she’s doing! That’s what the m&m’s are for!

    Pavlovian conditioning doesn’t just happen in a lab, dude. When your phone buzzes and you get that pang of excitement that someone may have just messaged you, that’s conditioning! Your phone has nefariously manipulated you into being excited at random times, at its sole discretion, and for what might be, like, a pizza ad or something.


  • Okay, I asked somebody else, maybe you can help.

    Consent to what? What is he supposed to be consenting to? That she thinks thoughts in her head? M&M’s are not actually magic, he does not have to be any happier if he doesn’t want to.

    Like, let’s look at another act of subtle coercion: the advertising industry. An ad agency’s entire job is to either directly or indirectly prime and condition you into believing certain things about whatever it is they’re selling.

    Maybe they want you to believe it’s a good product. Maybe they want you to believe that Apple is “clean” and “cool” and “for creatives.” Maybe they want you to believe that protesters are crazed lunatics throwing firebombs and flipping cars all the time.

    And, while this is deliberate manipulation, I’ve never heard anybody talk about how they didn’t consent to it. If a salesman is trying to coerce you into something, your consent is the contract you sign.

    And likewise, I don’t see how this guy isn’t consenting to M&M’s making him happier when they either did or did not do that in the first place.







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    Most people don’t assume their partner is trying to train them like an animal,

    Yeah…? I just… you seem to think there’s a difference between:

    “Hi~ We noticed you were sad, and we made you cupcakes! Hope you feel better!” and

    “Hi~ We noticed you were sad, and we made you cupcakes! Hope you feel better! (dog version)”

    And I just… I don’t know what that is! I’m trying my hardest here, man.

    Like, we’re talking about decades of human history here. Birthdays, and Christmases, and tipping your waiter, and end of year bonuses, and letting your kids take one day of school off, and celebrations for getting a new job or getting a big sale, and taking your friend out to a fancy dinner cause you want them to know they’re special, and peace offerings to some neighbor you’ve been feuding with—how is any of this less dog-like than what we’re talking about? Why is this thing specifically so dangerous?

    I don’t often think that my birthday presents are a secret ploy to trick me into being happier—like, what are we talking about?

    something as important as “and I talked to him about this” would be easy enough to add and clear up a whole lot.

    Well, maybe next time she can hire you as her editor, then.


  • Did she say “I’m going to treat you like a dog” and him agree?

    And what does this mean, exactly? You get the extra muffin she baked or something? You get to cuddle a lot?

    Did she say, “I’m giving you an m&m ever time you open up to encourage it”

    She probably didn’t say that, no, but I assume he can see this, like, with his eyes. If he doesn’t want m&m’s, why take them?

    Well she had the chance to say …

    So, she hasn’t told you via this tweet, therefore, ergo, concordantly, vice ve, she has never cared or asked about, like, his childhood or his mom.