I don’t like Ubuntu because of Snaps and because I never successfully upgraded from one release to the next without having to reinstall. Also, having a bar at the side AND the top is dumb.
I don’t like Mint because it’s just Ubuntu with even more stuff added.
I don’t like OpenSuse because when you install and administer it, you can feel it was made by Germans.
I don’t like Manjaro because it’s unstable by design due to the dev’s lazyness.
I don’t like Slackware because it installs 12 different programs for the same purpose but not the ones everyone wants, and throws rocks at you when you try to make it do something it wasn’t designed for by its Benevolent Dictator Who Knows Best (like boot from UEFI). Also, all of its users are currently sitting together in an abandoned attic praying to him, with cobwebs hanging from their beards.
Was going to comment similar. it has all thinks thought about and tweaked so it runa great and functions like it should. Maybe they didn’t enjoy system rollbacks and GUI admin?
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great system, but it’s overengineered like a German car.
What bugs me the most is that many of the YaST tools duplicate KDE’s own so you have several GUI tools installed that roughly change the same settings.
It uses KDE, which comes with a boatload of graphical tools to manage your system settings.
Then it adds YaST, which is another boatload of graphical tools to manage basically everything. (It’s in the name, “yet another system tool”)
So with OpenSUSE, you have 3 different GUI tools to add a printer.
It’s probably the one distro I’d recommend to someone who never wants to touch the command line, because for everything you might want to do with your OS they built a graphical tool.
Package management also offers a lot of options, like automatically updating a package from multiple repos while checking in the background which version is the most recent that doesn’t break your system.
Or “switching” a package to a different repo without reinstalling it. You can install user-provided packages (similar to Arch’s AUR) from the GUI. It discerns between Updates and Patches. And so on.
So in my opinion, Arch is like a kit car and OpenSUSE is like a Benz with ALL OF THE OPTIONS and a plastic cover over the engine bay.
Yast. I love zypper and opi but yast is super weird. Like if you want to do things that you can do with yast, you probably know how to do it on terminal.
Arch and Debian.
If Arch had a stable release model like Debian and a GUI installer that drops you into a GNOME desktop with no other software installed, that would be my perfect system.
I don’t like Mint because it’s just Ubuntu with even more stuff added.
Mint removes snaps and card games and replaces some GNOME utility apps like image viewer, video player, store etc. with its own apps. Mint also comes with additional apps like Hypnotix, Transmission, Hexchat, Timeshift but worst case they need additional disk space. Like 500 MiB maximum in a 10+ GiB install. I wouldn’t consider these apps “bloat”.
I don’t like Ubuntu because of Snaps and because I never successfully upgraded from one release to the next without having to reinstall. Also, having a bar at the side AND the top is dumb.
I don’t like Mint because it’s just Ubuntu with even more stuff added.
I don’t like OpenSuse because when you install and administer it, you can feel it was made by Germans.
I don’t like Manjaro because it’s unstable by design due to the dev’s lazyness.
I don’t like Slackware because it installs 12 different programs for the same purpose but not the ones everyone wants, and throws rocks at you when you try to make it do something it wasn’t designed for by its Benevolent Dictator Who Knows Best (like boot from UEFI). Also, all of its users are currently sitting together in an abandoned attic praying to him, with cobwebs hanging from their beards.
Everything made sense but OpenSuse, what up with German made stuff?
Some people don’t like things that are well made and organized in a sensible manner?
Like sudo requiring you to use the root password?
Isn’t one of the principal reasons sudo exists is so you DONT need to know or use the root password to perform root-level tasks?
It’s an idiotic choice on OpenSUSE’s part IMO.
You can modify the settings to get passwordless sudo.
Of course you can. My point is, it’s a ridiculous decision on OpenSUSE’s part to ship it this way in the first place.
Was going to comment similar. it has all thinks thought about and tweaked so it runa great and functions like it should. Maybe they didn’t enjoy system rollbacks and GUI admin?
Correct, I don’t enjoy GUI admin.
maybe it has fax support by default
It’s made by Germans, not lawyers.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great system, but it’s overengineered like a German car.
What bugs me the most is that many of the YaST tools duplicate KDE’s own so you have several GUI tools installed that roughly change the same settings.
What does that mean?
It’s overengineered.
Ok, could you give an example? I never used OpenSUSE, just curious.
It uses KDE, which comes with a boatload of graphical tools to manage your system settings.
Then it adds YaST, which is another boatload of graphical tools to manage basically everything. (It’s in the name, “yet another system tool”)
So with OpenSUSE, you have 3 different GUI tools to add a printer.
It’s probably the one distro I’d recommend to someone who never wants to touch the command line, because for everything you might want to do with your OS they built a graphical tool.
Package management also offers a lot of options, like automatically updating a package from multiple repos while checking in the background which version is the most recent that doesn’t break your system.
Or “switching” a package to a different repo without reinstalling it. You can install user-provided packages (similar to Arch’s AUR) from the GUI. It discerns between Updates and Patches. And so on.
So in my opinion, Arch is like a kit car and OpenSUSE is like a Benz with ALL OF THE OPTIONS and a plastic cover over the engine bay.
Yast. I love zypper and opi but yast is super weird. Like if you want to do things that you can do with yast, you probably know how to do it on terminal.
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
RIP norm Macdonald.
What do you like?
If I had to guess either Debian or TempleOS.
Debian, Arch, Fedora
what do you use?
Arch and Debian.
If Arch had a stable release model like Debian and a GUI installer that drops you into a GNOME desktop with no other software installed, that would be my perfect system.
Mint removes snaps and card games and replaces some GNOME utility apps like image viewer, video player, store etc. with its own apps. Mint also comes with additional apps like Hypnotix, Transmission, Hexchat, Timeshift but worst case they need additional disk space. Like 500 MiB maximum in a 10+ GiB install. I wouldn’t consider these apps “bloat”.