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yeah, didn’t work in brazil, we just opened up for the right to elect their dumbass just before the pandemic started, it was grim, please do vote for the lesser evil.
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If you can, please go vote. You give the vote up to the person you like the least if you don’t show up. I know this election sucks and the candidates aren’t the best. But is there someone you absolutely don’t want in office no matter what? I have one in mind and you better believe I’m showing up to vote for the only guy who can have a chance to keep him away. These other third party guys have no chance, like always. If you don’t show up to vote or vote third party as a throwaway, then don’t complain for the next four years.
You can hate all the candidates and still vote for the less shitty one.
Got it, should riot instead.
My voting strategy is super easy. You don’t need to keep up with politics or policy. Just see who the KKK is voting for and then vote for the other guy.
As an outsider, it’s really depressing to hear you only get two parties to choose from.
We have to keep it forever though, because some dead slave owners thought up the perfect government, apparently.
And we can’t change it because “if we don’t just keep following the system, we might elect Hitler. Don’t vote third party, that’s throwing your vote away and then the other guy will win”.
There’s no winning. Only us constantly losing.
In France you can vote “blank” which is counted separately to absentees.
That’s just stupid with extra steps…
Sounds very Irish.
It is however easier to explain to people that those in power do not have popular support if there are less people that voted for them. I am not saying it is a good idea, but I am trying to say that this goes both ways. As some user previously said, voting for lesser of two evils and voting for absolute support is also indistinguishable.
I don’t really understand. Suppose democracy as we know it is dismantled and we have an autocratic supreme leader eternal… will it be helpful to “explain to people that those in power do not have popular support”
voting for lesser of two evils and voting for absolute support is also indistinguishable.
This is also a flawed premise, as though casting a vote is supposed to be an expression of your self and your personal desires on path to utopia… it’s not. You’re voting for which asshole you want to be POTUS. That’s it. There is no lesser of two evils or tepid support or partial agreement. Do you want Chocolate, or do you want Strawberry.
Yes, it would be helpful. People are less likely to rebel if they think majority supports the government.
Sorry this is just retarded.
Don’t vote so when you lose the election you can say there’s no support for the guy that won?
I don’t think you shouldn’t vote, I just think there is no much use in it because there are both pros and cons that are more or less the same. If everybody voted for lesser of two evils everything would be the same as is now, if nobody voted it would be clear that we have no democracy at least. Either way, our effort should be placed in supporting party candidates, but in building our own communites and self-governing ourselves directly.
Sorry mate, if you think both parties are more or less the same then I don’t think I can reason with you. Good day.
Well they are funded by same donors and vote similar laws. They do have different PR strategy but their actions on important issues are always the same.
A “PR strategy” is not how I would describe installing an autocratic dictator.
you should be able to vote :
- anytime
- for anyone in the country that have full citizen rights
- electronically - privately using your private key signed and acknowledged by gov
- over whole period you can change your vote anytime
- counting votes and reset should be every 4 - 5 years depending on terms
- before counting votes everyone should get notification one month, one week, one day before and only if you didn’t vote hour, 15 minutes before counting
- if you didn’t vote your voting account should be disabled and removed from pool until you pay the fine to bring it back.
that’s all, let’s bring the voting to 21st century lol
I’m with you almost 100% but add mandatory enrollment, and change the fine to be if you didn’t vote. Even voting none of the above across the board should count as voting though.
Make enrollment automatic when you update your license when you turn 18, and store your key in your license with an NFC chip or something, so people don’t lose it. And maybe instead of a fine, do a tax credit or some other kind of bonus if you do vote. I think this is one of those situations where the carrot works better than the stick.
This all requires the government to be technically competent and move their technologies into the 21st century, which unfortunately means none of this will happen this century lol.
If I don’t agree with either candidate, I’m not voting for them, simple as that. I don’t care what someone else thinks about my choice, I’m done compromising on my beliefs for old men who can’t step aside.
This is equivalent to announcing you want us to completely discount your opinion. So why even mention it at all?
Because this is a discussion about the issue of not voting? Discussion is something that this website needs more of so I try to comment on articles if I have an opinion. I don’t care if you discount my opinion, I’m just not going to be shamed because of it.
You’re essentially praying to Biden or Trump that they hear you’re dissatisfied with them. You can have your opinion and the strong belief that you’re personally taking a stand, but its such a functionally useless empty gesture.
So is voting blue in a historically red dominated state…
Again, I don’t really care how meaningful you think your vote for Biden is. It means more to me right now to not cast a vote than it would to choose the lesser of two evils. I’m glad you feel the way you do about this election, but I don’t, and I’m not going to cast a vote just I can feel “useful”.
Cool. Everyone will ignore you but hey at least you’re self-satisfied with your own internal logic.
Um yeah, pretty much this. At the end of the day, isn’t that kind of all that matters? Be true to yourself and all that? Isn’t that the same thing you’re doing with your vote?
“Isn’t voting the same as not voting?” asks the spoiled brat who takes democracy completely for granted. You are subject to political outcomes of democracy whether you like it or not. Voting isn’t that hard. Therefore not voting is irrational.
I’m just waiting for all those Michigan voters threatening Biden right now to go through with it.
I’m not American, I’d be really curious to see the shocked Pikachu faces when those people are rounded up and deported by the fascist dictator they’d be tacitly supporting.
To solve this, find out how to register a protest vote and do that. Not voting is ambiguous, as is spoiling your ballot paper. What you need is a formally recognised way to vote “None of the above” or something similar, so that your intent is 100% clear.
