• Bone@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Do your CIA things behind the scenes, chief. Make it happen.

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      8 months ago

      Trump was a wakeup call for me back then. As a teenager in the 90s I always thought that the US has a robust democratic system with a strong militaristic core/underbelly/deepstate that would never compromise the stand of the US. I thought that some three letter agency would always have a plan for everything already drawn up and that action behind the scenes would be taken to ensure the stability and actionability of the states by always being one step ahead of the adversary. For the first Trump year I thought it would be a controlled trick of one of the agencies to trick china/russia into a trap. It must be. The US killed people in other countries around the world to make the US get out on top. No way that bought ads on Facebook can get unrecognized by these agencies to subvert millions.

      My worldview about the US today is absolutely shattered. I do not believe that any three letter agency in the US is capable of steering or controlling anything. That Russia and China are able to influence so many people without any agency confronting these efforts was a wake up call for me. And that there is a chance that trump might have a second term is downright devastating for my assurance in the US. As a child I thought about moving to the US one day. I would have taken the risk of getting shot or struggling with bad healthcare. But now that the believe in the protective stable leading system is gone… what is left? Unleashed capitalism and rampant racism? I can find this everywhere in the world.

      My personal american dream is long over.

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        The three letter agencies never had a plan for right wing authoritarianism because from their inception their goal is to prevent the US from moving beyond capitalism or making any serious moves leftward. From the fear of the USSR to the fear of the Black Panthers, to bombing a Philly neighborhood because of MOVE, they know their purpose and they know their tatgets. Fascism is fine by them, preferable even to anything that threatens the status quo of investor enrichment.

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        8 months ago

        Same. At first I was like, “Well obviously they’re letting Trump be president to keep up appearances that our election system is functioning, even though it’s obvious something happened, but they’ll manage things behind the scenes.” I thought at some point some 3-letter agency was going to swoop in and course-correct the whole thing or at least prevent it from getting bad. Then that clusterfuck of an administration kept getting more and more dysfunctional and it was apparent that nobody was at the wheel. Whichever agency ordered the hit on Kennedy had apparently decided against solving this situation.

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          8 months ago

          If only LBJ was still alive. He could’ve stepped back up to the plate and ordered the hit.

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          8 months ago

          we know the pentagon lied to him and did what they wanted anyway, including colluding with their chinese counterparts, so it’s not as though he even controlled the one arm of the government he was supposed to. bureaucrats still hold the reigns.

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        8 months ago

        Your personal American dream was a deep state that defied the president and the people?

        Before 2016 even the worst presidents had a baseline where the country was their top priority, just with differing opinions on what that meant. Trump is the first president who doesn’t give a single flying fuck about the country.

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      8 months ago

      It’s almost as if the CIA isn’t some all-powerful organization in charge of 50% of the world, like some people think.

      As Daniel Fried, former State Dept. official under Bush Jr., said: “We are not that good. I wish!”

      https://youtu.be/443WY8TTd-Q?t=1613