• Cano@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    What skinheads are you talking about? The ones before the movement became filled with nazis or the ones after?

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      23 days ago

      I’m not sure. I did not know there was a distinction. I really do not care about the nazi or racist part, but considering the downvotes, that doesn’t matter much. I mostly like the energy, maybe you can call it hate or a general feeling of the unheard. Also the bands that have this raw vocalist, sound pretty cool. (But I’m sure that’s not an exclusively skinhead thing.) But anyways, it’s a powerful emotion to base your music upon.

      I’m curious what the distinction is. Maybe you can name some bands? In the palylist I’m currently listening, I’ve heard “B squadron” and “plan of attack”, which sound pretty nice, aesthetically.

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          Yeah, I’m affraid I’m on the wrong side of this distinction. Not ideologically, but the raw emotion and hate sounds very powerful. But it’s not just the nazi punks who make that kind of music. It’s just that they are easy to find. If you can recommend me something better, with the same energy. I’m happy to listen to that.

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        Original skinheads = good kids who generally got on really well with the Jamaican rudeboys. People were generally apolitical but were connected by class (working class) not divided by colour. Eventually created 2-tone music.

        Nazi skinheads = Not remotely friends with rudeboys. Probably see them as sub-human. Haven’t created anything new musically (that I’m aware of).

        Punk = type of music played by both lovely accepting people and terrible scum too.

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    23 days ago

    You don’t know the difference between Nazis and punk.

    If you called a pink kid a skinhead you’d get your has beat by him. They are the opposite of skinheads.

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    23 days ago

    If it is done by skinheads then it is automatically NOT punk. Just like No Doubt does not make “ska”, but especially, very much, absolutely more so!

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      23 days ago

      That’s an interesting take. I do agree that “No Doubt” is not ska. But than again, I’ve never thought that it might be ska.

      I think “skinhead punk” is a very succinct, very separate subgenre of punk. But punk nonetheless.

      I get why you deny it though, because punk is supposed to be the very political opposite of that. In that sense I do agree with you that skinhead punk is not punk at all.

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      23 days ago

      Not at all. It’s all about emotion and hate is one of the most powerful emotions. That’s why social media is running so hot these days and I don’t agree with general social media either.

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          23 days ago

          Kind of. It’s not the hate per se, but it’s the raw emotion. I’m not very good with emotions, but this one sound very raw and aggressive. Which has an appeal.The best I can attribute it to is hate. Also, the fact that it’s “nazi punk” is influencing my choice of the term “hate”.

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      23 days ago

      One of what? People who like to step outside of the beaten track every once in a while? You think listening to hateful music makes me hateful? I’m guessing you, re also someone who thinks a mosh pit is a bad thing, don’t you?

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    23 days ago

    Nazi punk might be my least favorite Nazi genre but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t shake my ass to some ROME or Burzum every now and again

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      23 days ago

      I’ve heard Burzum, but that’s not nazi punk. There’s not enough hate for things that are not actually the problem, but you’re to dumb to realize. It’s basically just doom-metal.

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        23 days ago

        You missed the message of my comment entirely and I was pretty sympathetic to you.

        Nazi punk: not good

        Nazi black metal (NSBM): regrettably pretty good

        Nazi neofolk: regrettably pretty good

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          That’s just a matter of taste though, isn’t it? I generally don’t like black metal. And I haven’t a clue what “neofolk” is (might check that out later). I always appreciated punk, never really liked it, but skinhead punk does scratch the “punk itch” for me. It’s a well defined and well known sub-genre of punk, where other punk genres are less well-known, but maybe equally good. It’s basically a gate-way drug into other sub-genres of punk.