Approval requires at least nine votes in favour, with no vetoes. The UNSC’s five permanent members – the US, Russia, China, France and Britain – hold vetoes.

But the US has indicated that its opposition to Palestinian member status in the UN, in the absence of a broader deal with Israel, stays intact.

“Our position has not changed,” Robert Wood, US deputy ambassador to the UN, said last week.

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    I think it’s in the best interests of Jews to distance themselves from Zionists as much as possible.

    Yes but do you condemn Hamas? Maybe, to save on breath, Jews should all just walk around with crossed-out David’s stars? Or maybe instead of blue/white ones plain yellow ones to make the difference clear?

    …I know I’m being overly aggressive right now but this “Whole ethnicity should condemn bad actors they have nothing to do with” shit is utterly unproductive and insulting. I mean there’s some validity in e.g. asking Americans to condemn Trump, at least they can vote for him or not. Or to ask American Jews to comment on AIPAC. The majority of Jews are not Israelis, they have no say in what Israel is up to. It’s like asking Harry from Newcastle in, in a pub in Newcastle, whether he condemns Trump, after all, he’s Anglophone surely there must be a connection. Consider for example that all those bankers speak English…

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      Why would I condemn Hamas? They’re not doing anything that Israel hasn’t already done to them first.

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        Oh boy. For one, they’re fascists oppressing Palestinians. For two, they’re the Palestinian version of the Kahanites keeping the conflict boiling.

        Hamas is not the PLO and unless you’re an ass-backwards Islamist, they’re definitely not on your side.

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          So you want Palestinians to be completely un armed and surrender like how Germans did with jews? I believe germany did not do a good job re educating.

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              Yeah. This guy is just desperate to save face for zionists.

              I’m seeing more of that on lemmy, now.

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                I was off-handedly lauding the PLO and you call me a Zionist. The PLO, contains armed faction, btw, hence the “brand new sentence” thing.

                Yep, both of you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

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          oh boy

          Yeah, that immediately makes me not take you seriously.

          Whenever someone approaches me as though they’re automatically correct, I just toss their assertions out the window because they’re usually wrong.

          Try to argue better 😬

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            Ok: PLO are left-wing freedom fighters, Hamas are Islamofascist nutjobs financed by the Israeli right-wing to discredit Palestinian liberation. Is that better?