• andrewta@lemmy.world
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    I’m old enough to remember when the government has tried to cap the cost of one thing while ignoring other factors. It never ends the way the government thinks it will.

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      That’s bullshit. Nyc has rent stabilized apartments and it’s fucking fantastic. Not perfect of course, but really really good. Those apartments are highly sought after. The biggest problem is that there aren’t remotely enough of them

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        Almost like no one wants to build any because they can’t be invested in and the only people it works for are those who already got one.

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            It shouldn’t be - but ill tell you right now that no one will be a landlord unless they can make money from it, and people who move out of home at 18 won’t have the money saved to buy straight away.

            Make no mistake, I don’t like the housing crisis and its causes either but I know rent caps isn’t how we fix it long term.

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              Why do we need people to be landlords?

              Housing coops and government-owned housing work out fine.

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                4 months ago

                Yes they could - but they aren’t being used.

                Plus, you know, that’s socialism or communism or something else people don’t like for some reason.

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      If you’re talking about a government that is ignoring other factors, which is not true in this situation. Go read the article.

      But even in general, if you’re trying to argue that the government can’t possibly solve the problem of mega corporations buying up tons of property, making tons of money, and screwing over millions of Americans, then you might be right but I sure hope you’re wrong.

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        No agency/group/organization can possibly account for all factors. They are going to fail to take something into account.

        That something is going to blow up in their face.

        I remember when the government tried to tell truckers they couldn’t charge more to ship products. The government failed to take into account a little item called gas, to this day I can’t figure out how they screwed that one up. Guess what the truckers did.

        They put the keys on the dash and said f u. Ask truckers who drove during the 70s and 80s and they will tell you about it.

        This too will blow up in people’s faces.

        Is rent getting out of control? Yes. But if someone says “ oh we’ll just put a cap on how much can be increased and that will fix the problem”. It tells me they are just delusional. How do we fix the problem? I don’t know. But yeah this will end badly.

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          I think you’ve backed yourself into a corner that’s hard to support. Originally you were saying that they didn’t take into account enough factors, and I pointed out that in fact they had researched the issue extensively. Now you’re claiming that they didn’t take into account all possible factors… I agree with you on this claim, but I don’t agree with your conclusion. Because if the claim is that failure to take into account all possible factors will lead legislation to fail, then we have thousands of examples to the contrary. Many laws have succeeded throughout history across hundreds of countries around the world. And not once had the lawmakers considered all possibilities and all implications of the laws that they were creating.

          What is the best approach to fixing housing prices? I don’t know. Will this method succeed? Maybe. But if you’re assuming that it’s going to fail because the issue is complex, then history says your assumption is unwarranted.