• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    You can be relieved of taxes as long as you’re barred from using anything paid for with taxes. No FDA regulations for you!

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        4 months ago

        [starts to stretch insulin with paint thinner]

        every day it seems like people forget what things like the FDA are for, but hey, the snake oil salesmen love this state of affairs

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          4 months ago

          If I need testing for someone else’s insulin, I can get that for cheaper than the regulatory capture insulin. They don’t work for us.

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            4 months ago

            ah yes, use the totally legit bio-med test service down the road, due to the FTC not being a thing they can totally and without any repercussions just lie to you because they have a deal with the person selling you the insulin.

            Then again, you have been hoodwinked into some “regulatory capture” bullshit, in reality, insulin is so expensive in the USA because no one has the capital wants to sell it cheap, it’s a risk for minimal rewards, the demand is literally your life, so the cost can be as high as anyone wants it.

            as for the whole “but the free market” and “supply/demand”, do you think the people setting these prices don’t know what the prisoner’s dilemma is?

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              4 months ago

              There is just so much going on here.

              Are we discussing a situation in which only the FDA is gone, or complete anarchy?

              Do you believe that regulatory capture is bullshit?

              People knowing about a prisoner’s dilemma doesn’t make it go away.

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                4 months ago

                Are we discussing a situation in which only the FDA is gone, or complete anarchy?

                the premise was no government services paid for by taxes, and without taxes there are no government anything.

                Do you believe that regulatory capture is bullshit?

                regulatory capture is commonly trodden out by people as an example of big government bad, when it doesn’t happen as often as these people like to pretend it does (take, for example, your misconception that the FDA is the cause of high insulin prices), not the fact that it is just a failure to deal with corruption.

                People knowing about a prisoner’s dilemma doesn’t make it go away.

                that’s the fun part tho, both parties knowing about the prisoner’s dilemma DOES make it go away, as the most successful models, over a longer set of games, tend to be Tit-for-Tat models

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                  4 months ago

                  So then there’s no patents either, right? Literally anyone can start manufacturing their own insulin or biosimilars.

                  There are already drug testing services for darknet markets. They don’t know who sent you the drugs in the first place.

                  The tit for tat with forgiveness models you’re thinking of are for two parties, not dozens or more.

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                    4 months ago

                    tit-for-tat works in a larger setting as well, in fact it works better because you can ostracize and punish.

                    you know, like WHAT IS LITERALLY HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK!? do you think greed-flation just happened out of nowhere?

                    but no, like every libertarian, you propose the destruction of regulation because you promise yourself that somehow people will be better off if they need to waste their lives on crap. “you didn’t put weeks of research into the three bio-med testing labs to ensure they wouldn’t lie about the insulin, I guess you should die now, lol”, and you know how I can tell you’re an American? BECAUSE LITERALLY NO NE ELSE HAS THIS ISSUE. yes, this issue is entirely an American thing because you’re the main drivers of the deregulation and reactionary enforcement that has lead to insulin costing you $500 for a 2-week supply, and your reaction is to make the US into more of a banana republic by destroying the goverment even more.

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      5 months ago

      Many more tax dollars are poured into the military industrial complex than actual regulation.

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      Works for me! As long as Amazon will still deliver to my address, you can find me homesteading at my Uncle Ted cabin sending virtual mailbombs to fiat currency enthusiasts. Don’t come visit without an appointment though or you’ll be leaving in a box.

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        4 months ago

        They won’t, those roads are maintained by taxes and the internet infrastructure is subsidized.

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          4 months ago

          There goes my dream of being self sufficient. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

          I hope you’re happy.

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          I didn’t do anything wrong though. No vote, no taxes, no use of publicly funded infrastructure, that was the deal. Amazon is a private company, they do pay taxes, so they can use the roads on my behalf.

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            5 months ago

            That’s the fun thing though, taxes pay for the legal system that protects you from both the state and other people. So you don’t get that either. Anyone including the FBI can roll up and smoke your ass and there’s nothing you can do about it.

            And I dunno what a virtual mailbomb is, but it sounds like something the FBI would care enough to stop.

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              And I dunno what a virtual mailbomb is, but it sounds like something the FBI would care enough to stop.

              It’s just a funny word I made up for inconvenient free speech. Because it is my experience that right (or wrong, depending on your perspective) words at the right time can literally make a person blow up LOL

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                4 months ago

                Ah well. It will be difficult to talk to anyone, because the internet, postal service, and telecommunications are all subsidized by taxes.