• JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      That’s good to see. Thank you! Hopefully we can have some good things happen by next election and get someone better by then.

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        I can’t consider voting for traitors. So repubs are off the table. I will always vote against them. They’re worthless filth.

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          4 months ago

          Right but it wasn’t that long ago that D was the hardcore racist party.

          To blindly support a party no matter what is not something anyone should ever do or proclaim.

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            I think it’s pretty obvious that if the Democratic Party changed that drastically, the person you replied to would change their opinion. They are saying that because, at present, Republicans are far, far more dangerous.

            Also, Democrats have been championing civil rights since JFK. Saying 1960 was not that long ago is silly. Suffering that 1866, which is when the poster you posted was made, is not that long ago when it comes to American politics is not even rational.

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              So why don’t people say that instead of such extremist language like “no matter what”?

              Words matter. Blindly supporting or pretending you will blindly support a shit party because the other is worse is in no way shape or form a good thing.

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                  Well because this community is pretty overwhelmingly blue maga I’m not really surprised.

                  Lots of people have issues with it, you just constantly ignore the voices and wonder “Why is Biden struggling to get voters?”

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                I interpreted what they said as “in this election”.

                And even then, I also knew (from context) that they wouldn’t continue to vote Democrat if the party changed so drastically.

                Words matter, but so do context and inferences/implications

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        Are you making the ludicrous suggestion that the Democratic Party of 1866 is the same as the one today?

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          No, I’m making the suggestion that D can and has changed in the past and that supporting them blindly forever is not wise.

          Biden was fighting for segregation at the end of the day. This isn’t 1866 history, the Southern Strategy happened in the 1960s

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                In the current context, blue no matter who is the correct position.

                There is no reason to assume that the person was stating blue no matter who regardless of all other future and hypothetical situations which are not currently relevant."

                What is Blue MAGA?

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                  Blue MAGA is the Dem fanatics who utter phrases like “blue no matter who”. Much the same as there are those who will blindly support Trump no matter what, Dems have the same problem.

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                    In the current context, blue no matter who is the only appropriate in response to the opposition being literal fascists.

                    Unbunch your undies.

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        Imagine digging back 158 years to find an example of a Democrat being racist, and thinking you have a point.