Oh well your question was " are these people not responsible for their own actions? " In my response was clearly, you’re conflating the Palestinian civilians, and the actions of Hamas. And then I gave you counterexamples.
If you wanted to ask me do I feel terrible for the Israeli civilians that have been killed? Yes I feel terrible, nobody should suffer like that. Nobody should be in the path of violence.
There you go again. Blaming the civilians for what’s happening to them. You can speak for an entire population? All Palestinian support Hamas? And if they don’t support Hamas they celebrate hamas’s actions? That’s a big assumption, and a catch 22.
Clearly not all Jewish people support the bad things happening Gaza, I know this, because they’re a diverse population with different moral composes, and some of them have even gone on record saying hey this is a terrible situation it shouldn’t be happening.
Quite honestly, I think your internal biases, inform your reactions. And you don’t examine your own biases. You think I’m pro Hamas, I’m not. You said you looked at my posting history, I’m pretty sure you didn’t, cuz it’s quite extensive, and you would have seen me arguing with pro Hamas people.
Quite frankly, I don’t care about the situation, these people have been killing each other since before I was born, and they will continue to kill each other long after I am dead. What I do care about is people making incorrect arguments online, without thinking about their biases, without thinking about the effect their advocating for. Which is why we had that whole argument about asymmetric power imbalances in the other thread.
Palestine has to change to find a stable peaceful situation, as does Israel. As I indicated they probably have to combine and come to terms with each other.
Oh well your question was " are these people not responsible for their own actions? " In my response was clearly, you’re conflating the Palestinian civilians, and the actions of Hamas. And then I gave you counterexamples.
If you wanted to ask me do I feel terrible for the Israeli civilians that have been killed? Yes I feel terrible, nobody should suffer like that. Nobody should be in the path of violence.
When Palestinians weren’t with Hamas they wouldn’t celebrate their violence.
Without them changing as well, there will be no end to the violence.
There you go again. Blaming the civilians for what’s happening to them. You can speak for an entire population? All Palestinian support Hamas? And if they don’t support Hamas they celebrate hamas’s actions? That’s a big assumption, and a catch 22.
Clearly not all Jewish people support the bad things happening Gaza, I know this, because they’re a diverse population with different moral composes, and some of them have even gone on record saying hey this is a terrible situation it shouldn’t be happening.
Quite honestly, I think your internal biases, inform your reactions. And you don’t examine your own biases. You think I’m pro Hamas, I’m not. You said you looked at my posting history, I’m pretty sure you didn’t, cuz it’s quite extensive, and you would have seen me arguing with pro Hamas people.
Quite frankly, I don’t care about the situation, these people have been killing each other since before I was born, and they will continue to kill each other long after I am dead. What I do care about is people making incorrect arguments online, without thinking about their biases, without thinking about the effect their advocating for. Which is why we had that whole argument about asymmetric power imbalances in the other thread.
So you believe it’s an incorrect statement that for peace Palestine has to change as well?
Palestine has to change to find a stable peaceful situation, as does Israel. As I indicated they probably have to combine and come to terms with each other.