• jabjoe@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    You give people unchecked power over other people, and it will be abused. Occupying armies, prisons, police, clergy, you name it.

    We just aren’t nice monkeys. So power has to be transparent and accountable.

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    In another scene of violence caught on camera, a soldier kicks a blindfolded Palestinian man in the stomach, then spits on him and insults him in Arabic.

    In one instance, a religious Jewish reserve soldier hugs a blindfolded, handcuffed Palestinian on the shoulders, and dances with him in circles while he plays religious music on his phone. He asks him, “Why don’t you dance” as the blindfolded man loses his balance.

    These are the good guys. You know, the ones that don’t want violence and only want to be safe from external threats.

  • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “The IDF has investigated ourselves, and we have found we have done nothing wrong.”

    You have everyday Israelis posting racist tiktoks making fun of Palestinian deaths, it was a given that if you take those same civilians and give them guns the abusive behavior would just get worse.

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      “The IDF has investigated ourselves, and we have found we have done nothing wrong.”

      From the article…

      In response to the evidence, the IDF said that “the [soldiers’] conduct that emerges from these scenes is grave and inconsistent with the values of the IDF. The incidents are under investigation. The IDF commanders will hold talks with all the soldiers on the front. One soldier has been dismissed from reserve service.”

      Not saying that the IDF is right on this one, at all, but all armies have aholes in them who do crap like this.

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        So they quick way out of reserve service is to just film yourself committing war crimes? That seems like a reward not a punishment. They should be in prison, not at home

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          So they quick way out of reserve service

          I wasn’t speaking towards that.

          I was calling someone out for falsely quoting something that wasn’t said.

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      What do you mean war, the west bank is not controlled by hamas.

      This is brutalisation by an occupying force on a population living in an Israeli controlled Bantustan.

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        11 months ago

        Occupation is war. Apartheid is war. Oppression is a war on the oppressed.

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    This sounds like when pics emerged of American troops pointing finger-guns at the genitals of Muslim men in potato sacks on baskets.

    Holy shit, I can’t find the Gitmo pics of the lady doing fingerguns at their junks. I’m sure I could if I spent enough time, but 4-5 searches didn’t get their. That’s even more disturbing. This was a huge issue.

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      Wow, I really thought “this guy just didn’t look hard enough, they’re there”.

      Uh, spoilers: I did not find them.

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      Or the torture in Abu Ghraib prison. But don’t worry, the perpetrators got severely punished by being dishonorably discharged from the US Army. Then two of them married each other.

      Edit: Looks like you are already referring to the Abu Ghraib tortures.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    This is the issue of apartheid. Apartheid doesn’t mean the government is evil, but it protects evil people when they do evil things.

    When you have two populations with unequal rights, there’s going to be some assholes who are going to exploit that. That’s just human nature

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    The article says that the only repercussions will be “talks” with the soldiers.

    Just a few bad apples, right?

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    Why is American media not showing any of this? Reading or watching US news is like being in a parallel universe.