Why are migrants so desperate to come here?
why are migrants so desperate to come here
What the fuck?
Yeah i think this was intended to mean “The USA sucks ass, dont come here if u want a peaceful life”
Seems to me they’d be better off in a non-shithole country.
Asheville is a great place, among many other communities that are really hurting from this exceptionally devastating storm. Not sure what kind of point or joke you think you’re making by calling America a shithole when you see news about people dying and losing their livelihoods
I think my point is pretty clear: America is a shithole. Don’t come here. Go somewhere else where you won’t be treated like a subhuman and where infrastructure works.
I mean if they really want to come here, I’m not going to stand in their way. I just think it’s a bad idea.
Maybe you should get offline and live in the real world for a bit. Terrible things happen in America just like everywhere else, and you’re making this point at the expense of people suffering from a natural disaster.
I’m talking about the infrastructure issue here. Which is what this article is about.
No you aren’t, you’re using a record shattering disaster to try to make some really fucking stupid point about how vague ‘other countries’ are somehow much better than America.
Disasters happen everywhere. Get your head out of your ass, you usually can string together a decent point, but this is just idiotic.
I literally named another country.
Do you think people are walking across the Darien Gap or the dessert just because? Do you think human rights and infrastructure are so amazing in these other countries that people just come here for the adventure and the vibes?
No?
Helene wrecked some shit, y’all.
Possible replay this weekend, too. Laugh all you like about ‘climate change.’ Storms like this the were “the nightmare scenario” 20 years ago during OEM planning exercises. Katrina & Sandy were both still hypothetical. Now we also have Helene.
Yes, it’s getting worse. No, there’s nowhere to move that’s safe.
My family lost power Friday night (and are still without power) in Ohio from this. Severe hurricane damage is getting deeper and deeper into the continent every year.
There are other countries to move to, but with America’s current anti-immigration stance I’m not sure who’s still got their welcome mats out.
I live in Southern Germany and studied ecology in a town called Tübingen. One of my professors showed a world map in a lecture, and then overlaid all areas in danger of different natural catastrophies projected to become worse due to climate change.
None of the layers overlapped Tübingen, and the last slide just said “stay safe, stay in Tübingen”.The following year there was a hailstorm where tennis-ball-sized hailstones smashed triple pane windows horizontally, through closed aluminum shutters, went through tiled roofs, injured several hundred people, and caused severe flooding, with billions in damages.
Spain and Portugal are pretty swell. We’ve been looking at Iberia as a potential option.
That’s just trading hurricanes with wildfires
Right now I’m in BC. All my wilds are already on fire.
A few years back my area got hit with a pretty bad storm, beat the previous flood record here by about a foot, that previous record was set about 85 years prior. Bad flood, but statistically not totally unprecedented, you often hear talk about 100 year floodplains, and so that was almost a textbook perfect illustration of that, if you normally only get a flood that bad about once a century we were just about due.
Then the next year hurricane Ida hit, totally smashed that fresh new record by about 5 ft. It took them like a week to figure out exactly how bad the flooding actually was because it totally swamped all of the river gauges.
NOAA’s website has a list of 42 historic crests of that creek going back to at least 1933. 29 of those crests have been since 2000, and 7 have been in just the last 5 years.
Once upon a time in my area, ice was an industry, big blocks of ice would be cut out of nearby lakes in the winter, shipped out around the area, and stored to last through the year. There may even be a handful of older residents in our area who were alive when it was happening, and certainly a few who are old enough that their parents would have remembered it. We’re only about a century removed from that time.
My friends’ dad used to tell stories about being able to ice state down the local Creek in the winter and being able to skate all the way from our town to one about 6 miles downstream.
I have rarely seen any of the waterways in my area freeze over with even an inch of ice, certainly none of them freeze over thick enough that I’d be comfortable ice skating on them (I keep an eye on all of the ice conditions because I want to try ice fishing, been keeping an eye on it for a decade, haven’t had a chance yet. A lot of the local parks have posted regulations for ice fishing because it used to be a thing you could do around here) and absolutely not thick enough that you could cut a block of ice out of it.
We also set a record last year for the longest recorded stretch without an inch of snow. Snow totals have been overall trending downwards for a while, over the last couple decades a lot of the local school districts have cut down on the amount of snow days they build into their calendars because they just weren’t using them. A small local ski slope near me has had to invest in new snow making equipment because they absolutely couldn’t count on getting real snow anymore, or necessarily even the temperatures being cold enough for their old equipment to work reliably
Climate change should be pretty damn obvious to anyone in my area, and yet a whole lot of people around me refuse to see it.
Absolutely no reason to make cynical jokes about weather emergencies like this. Weather emergencies happen everywhere in the world
What if we change your question. What if we ask about asylum seekers? Does that make it any clearer?
If you spend about 20 minutes online, you will find out that many people are fleeing their home countries because they don’t want to be killed, forced into slave-like conditions, or forced into occupations such as prostitution. Or they want to prevent that from happening to their children.
If you were to ask people in situations like this what country they’d like to go to, in the abstract, they might not say the United States. But their options are limited. So, what country are you suggesting as an alternative? If someone is starting in El Salvador, to pick a random country in Central America, where do you think they should go?
Well of course if you’re seeking asylum it’s different. That’s why I said migrants and not asylum seekers.
If you are willingly migrating to a country that is so broken that it could take weeks to get fresh water back to residents while they are mostly cut off from the rest of the country for an unspecified amount of time, maybe find a more functional place to migrate to.
As to where- maybe just keep heading north until you get to Canada. At least you’ll get free healthcare.
just keep heading north until you get to Canada
Careful. We take refugees and skilled people first, and without a need or a needful skill you may have a bad go at it.
Healthcare ain’t free for real, but since it’s already paid for with taxes it seems it. It’s just massively-discounted before tax money buys it thanks to a reverse monopoly single-payer thing. You knew that, but it’s fun to show how a system the GoP should like is one they instead revile.
