President Joe Biden says he won't support an Israeli attack on sites related to Tehran’s nuclear program in response to Iran’s missile attack on Israel.
Biden’s refusal to do anything, out of this constant fear of “escalation,” is both damaging our standing with our allies, and is emboldening our enemies by sending the message that the US is asleep at the wheel.
Israel is a strategic location for the US to maintain military power in both the Middle East and northern Europe.
The US has access to nuclear capable weapons in Israel and that keeps Moscow in check.
current leadership in Israel is well known to be sympathetic to Russian influence and is likely tempted by the goal to eradicate all Muslims, something Moscow is likely to allow.
Should Israel defect to Putin’s regime, the US would lose military influence and superiority in the area and it would likely set the US back decades.
for Iran to attack Israel, they are forcing the US to make a choice. Publicly commit to be in cooperation with the administration that continuously commits crimes against humanity, or to step away from supporting the admin and thus step away from a strategic point.
Without the support of the US or Russia Israel will fall, it’s only a matter of time. at that point Iran is in the best position to take over and they will do so through Iraq and Jordan.
it’s in Russian best interests to support both Iran and Israel to fight so the US continues to focus assets on stabilizing Israel instead of Ukraine. To them, it doesn’t matter who wins or loses. As long as both Israel and Iran play Moscow’s game, Russia wins.
Furthermore, Russia can use the turmoil and brutal imagery from Israeli forces and sow the seeds of propaganda online of, “look what Joe Biden is doing! Do you want more of this?”
Russia wants a Trump presidency because they get everything they want. They get US out of Israel, out of Ukraine, and would have a singular position in Germany, which is weak when it stands without Israel.
It’s pathetic how afraid Moscow is of Harris, especially when they talk a big talk about how big their nuclear dicks are.
I feel a few points above aren’t correct from my knowledge, can we discuss?
Israel is a strategic location for the US to maintain military power in both the Middle East and northern Europe.
I agree Israel provides intelligence to the US, and there are some bases in the country, but I disagree with its importance in the overall power projection, especially with our access to saudi arabia. Also, the us and israel have a love/hate relationship, well demonstrated by the USS Liberty incident.
The US has access to nuclear capable weapons in Israel and that keeps Moscow in check.
The israeli arsenal is generally believed to be american uranium and stolen british nuclear secrets, and is not controlled by the us. Even if the us had some say in the use of this arsenal, this is a pittance of what the us would have available. So this doesn’t strike me as a strong argument.
current leadership in Israel is well known to be sympathetic to Russian influence and is likely tempted by the goal to eradicate all Muslims, something Moscow is likely to allow.
This argument is the most confusing; russia is making close ties to chechen leaders and has muslim countries in its sphere of influence. Israel just bombed a russian weapon depot, and the putin regime is denouncing israelli actions of late.
I agree trump would be best for russia (and israel actually, his isolationist policies are horrible for us power projection), but russia needs iranian weapons to support its ukraine war effort. Iran at war will cause shahed deliveries to be redirected and hurt russia’s ability to degrade ukranian air defenses and infrastructure. Russia seems to be playing a soft political support for iran and the muslim countries because there is no cost to do so, and I feel your argument about their preferring a fight to weaken the democrats is a good one, just not with one of their major weapon suppliers in their current war efforts.
A Trump presidency means US out of Israel and Iran? How so? Trump and his advisors have done way more to hawk a war with Iran than Biden/Harris. Trumps actions while in office were also very supportive of Israel and antagonistic to Palestinians, leading to more attacks on Israel and more US involvement.
The only way we got Ukrainian aid was by passing Israeli aid.
I don’t like it either, but it’s a price I’m willing to pay to stop Russia and China from expanding their despotism.
I know you disagree and would rather sell Ukraine down the river for Gaza, and good for you, but if Ukraine fell in 2012 domestic pressure on Xi to take Taiwan would be unstoppable, and this is exactly how WW2 started, momentum, we need to make invasion too expensive to contemplate.
Biden’s refusal to do anything, out of this constant fear of “escalation,” is both damaging our standing with our allies, and is emboldening our enemies by sending the message that the US is asleep at the wheel.
Whose allies? Whose enemies?
No thanks on the “nationalist we”. I don’t care who the state labels as buddy or bad guy. Nationalism is toxic AF.
no it’s not.
anyone with eyes can see this is the price paid to have a militarily significant position against the real enemy, Russia.
sure, there is much gnashing of teeth and shouting of change but it’s all political theater.
I don’t feel that’s obvious, can you elaborate on your views?
Israel is a strategic location for the US to maintain military power in both the Middle East and northern Europe.
The US has access to nuclear capable weapons in Israel and that keeps Moscow in check.
current leadership in Israel is well known to be sympathetic to Russian influence and is likely tempted by the goal to eradicate all Muslims, something Moscow is likely to allow.
Should Israel defect to Putin’s regime, the US would lose military influence and superiority in the area and it would likely set the US back decades.
for Iran to attack Israel, they are forcing the US to make a choice. Publicly commit to be in cooperation with the administration that continuously commits crimes against humanity, or to step away from supporting the admin and thus step away from a strategic point.
Without the support of the US or Russia Israel will fall, it’s only a matter of time. at that point Iran is in the best position to take over and they will do so through Iraq and Jordan.
it’s in Russian best interests to support both Iran and Israel to fight so the US continues to focus assets on stabilizing Israel instead of Ukraine. To them, it doesn’t matter who wins or loses. As long as both Israel and Iran play Moscow’s game, Russia wins.
Furthermore, Russia can use the turmoil and brutal imagery from Israeli forces and sow the seeds of propaganda online of, “look what Joe Biden is doing! Do you want more of this?”
Russia wants a Trump presidency because they get everything they want. They get US out of Israel, out of Ukraine, and would have a singular position in Germany, which is weak when it stands without Israel.
It’s pathetic how afraid Moscow is of Harris, especially when they talk a big talk about how big their nuclear dicks are.
I feel a few points above aren’t correct from my knowledge, can we discuss?
I agree Israel provides intelligence to the US, and there are some bases in the country, but I disagree with its importance in the overall power projection, especially with our access to saudi arabia. Also, the us and israel have a love/hate relationship, well demonstrated by the USS Liberty incident.
The israeli arsenal is generally believed to be american uranium and stolen british nuclear secrets, and is not controlled by the us. Even if the us had some say in the use of this arsenal, this is a pittance of what the us would have available. So this doesn’t strike me as a strong argument.
This argument is the most confusing; russia is making close ties to chechen leaders and has muslim countries in its sphere of influence. Israel just bombed a russian weapon depot, and the putin regime is denouncing israelli actions of late.
I agree trump would be best for russia (and israel actually, his isolationist policies are horrible for us power projection), but russia needs iranian weapons to support its ukraine war effort. Iran at war will cause shahed deliveries to be redirected and hurt russia’s ability to degrade ukranian air defenses and infrastructure. Russia seems to be playing a soft political support for iran and the muslim countries because there is no cost to do so, and I feel your argument about their preferring a fight to weaken the democrats is a good one, just not with one of their major weapon suppliers in their current war efforts.
A Trump presidency means US out of Israel and Iran? How so? Trump and his advisors have done way more to hawk a war with Iran than Biden/Harris. Trumps actions while in office were also very supportive of Israel and antagonistic to Palestinians, leading to more attacks on Israel and more US involvement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/13/evangelicals-israel-gaza-republicans/
The only way we got Ukrainian aid was by passing Israeli aid.
I don’t like it either, but it’s a price I’m willing to pay to stop Russia and China from expanding their despotism.
I know you disagree and would rather sell Ukraine down the river for Gaza, and good for you, but if Ukraine fell in 2012 domestic pressure on Xi to take Taiwan would be unstoppable, and this is exactly how WW2 started, momentum, we need to make invasion too expensive to contemplate.
You were doing very well until you started telling me the views you planted to argue against.
Yes, that’s the problem. Why not fund the defense of ukraine and palestine?
You’re willing to collaborate with genocidal fascists? Gross.
Fascism won’t stop fascism. This isn’t a baseball game. Grow up.
Thanks for telling us you have no nuanced intelligence, monochromatic imbecile.
There’s something wrong with you, I don’t know if it’s ignorance or what.
We sided with Stalin against Hitler.
Fascism did stop fascism, very well in fact, it’s one of the few things that does because only fascists are willing to spend lives like they are.