• Repple (she/her)@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Now that it’s clear that Harris’s really well run campaign underperformed Hillary Clinton, can we finally end the myth that some failing of her campaign strategy or “likability” was the primary reason for her loss rather than sexism and Comey’s shenanigans? It really seems like a very large number of men just won’t vote for a woman in the US.

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    2 months ago

    It’s all Harris’s fault everyone so definitely do not blame the absolute human garbage who didn’t vote even knowing the stakes

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        2 months ago

        You should blame yourself for not pushing the democrats to take a principled stance against Israel, or any kind of benefit for working people, or anything at all that would inspire people to vote that wasn’t the gun of fascism to their heads.

        “It’s HER turn” didn’t work for Hillary and it wasn’t going to work for Kamala.

        You may now proceed to gloat in your self-satisfaction and continue to not unionize your workplace, not join a mutual aid group, not join the SRA and be flabbergasted next time your efforts to tell people online to VOTE have the same effect.

        • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          Why would I blame a german for democrat actions? I blame the voters in the US who chose fascism over democracy. These are Trump voters, Stein voters and non voters. They ensured there will never be a free election in the US again.

          And are you stupid? How can a german in germany join any of these organizations? You really are the dumbest person I argued with about this. You try to attack me personally and fail embarrassingly because you know nothing about you.

          From the tantrum you throw it looks like you are one of these vile pieces of garbage that didnt vote. Steigbügel Halter des Faschismus.

          • lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            You are a fool to think fascism wasn’t already here under either democrats or republican. Democrats just put nicer lipstick on.

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              2 months ago

              Learn what fascism is. Democrats are flawed. They are not totalitarian ultra nationalist far right

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          2 months ago

          Thats obvious. But I blame the non voters and third party voters just as much. They are no an iota better than any MAGA voter.

      • Tattorack@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Really? You wouldn’t blame the millions of people that explicitly voted for a convicted, fascist criminal?

        If Americans had any sense the race would’ve been between Stein and Harris, not between Harris and someone who shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a presidency.

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        2 months ago

        Would those votes have mattered? Last I checked on Nov 5 only 70k votes went to 3rd party and the gap between Harris and Trump was much greater

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          2 months ago

          The 20 million people who voted Biden but not Harris would have mattered. Non voters are the same kind of trash as MAGA

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    2 months ago

    “Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).

    In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”

    I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.

    We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.

    8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

    The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.

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      2 months ago

      Blame everyone but Harris huh?

      She, along with Hillary, never once bothered to try getting Stein voters to switch to her. It was both their downfalls. Trump did all he could to get RFK voters to switch to him.

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        2 months ago

        …RFK Jr did just as much damage as Stein did and got almost the same number of votes despite being off a ton of important large states. He’s the reason New Mexico isn’t so close it’s a Swing State. It ain’t the greens

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        2 months ago

        Stein has well under a million votes, her votes wouldn’t have made a difference if Harris got every single one.

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          2 months ago

          Tell that to the person above me. People either voted for Stein or stayed home (since Stein wasn’t on the ballot in many states).