New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D) reviewed the potential adverse impact of the 2024 election and highlighted freedoms that could be threatened by President-elect Trump’s win in a social me…
Both her and Sanders said to vote for the one that could be persuaded to come further left, and you’re throwing her under the bus? Wow, it’s everyone’s fault. Jefferson was right.
Can you or anyone else tell me what “blue MAGA” is?
Edit: It sounds like the term means centrist/center-right Democrats who want to uphold the status quo. How is that “MAGA” of any flavor? I thought the MAGA movement was just a bunch of Christofascists.
I usually don’t use the term because it makes me sound like a tankie, but when I say blueMAGA it’s to describe the “hold your nose and vote Harris you fucking donkey” condescending pricks who that they’re both entitled to shut down all criticism of their preferred candidate and actually convincing anyone to vote by doing it. You know, the people now trying to convince themselves Harris only lost because Americans are sexist and racist and not at all because Harris’s campaign fucking sucked. How to tell: They’ll call anyone who criticizes Harris (they still do it but less often than before the election) MAGA, a Russian bot or a troll and seem convinced everyone who cares about Palestine is/was part of a Russian conspiracy to get Trump elected.
The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.
The real victims (with a say/vote) are the Americans who voted for Harris. The people who voted for Trump and those who abstained from voting actively and passively chose what’s coming.
It’s your right to point fingers and blame people, but if you want to get them to vote and bring them over to your side, that is historically not been the best motivator.
I think there’s truth to this. The Democratic party has to engage with people in good faith and learn what it’s important for them and why they voted the way they did.
I think most didn’t vote because they are apathetic, ill-informed morons with the attention span of a gnat. They don’t understand inflation, tariffs, deflation, international relations, trade, renewable energy, oil production, gas prices, vaccines, healthcare, or much of anything else. They also don’t care to learn about how anything works. It’s not like the last chapter of the history book on the United States is going to blame the pro-democracy candidate for not doing enough to appeal to a public that was too lazy to continue living in a democracy. They have access to more educational resources than any humans in history and they just ignore it.
If that’s the case then we are well and truly fucked because that’s not changing without significant education investment, and Trump is going to get rid of the Department of Education.
Education and critical thinking is lacking in the majority of the electorate and the trend is that we elect leaders that reinforce that instead of mitigate it. Defunding education doesn’t improve this situation, and I feel we hit a tipping point where we might not be able to get these skills back in the curriculum going forward.
Yes, it’s true that this election was about democracy vs fascism, but the election result tells us that it’s possible to see the election from other angles where it’s about other things. I think the Democratic party has to view the election from those angles, see what those things are, and take that to heart.
Just remember, America. You voted for what’s coming. You asked for it and so you have no one to blame but yourselves.
They told you exactly what they are planning to do.
Yes. Blue MAGA disenfranchised left wing voters.
MAGA emboldened right wing voters.
Republicans are always at fault for being right wing fascists.
Democrats are currently at fault for being right wing fascists.
The 2/3rds of American adults that are disenfranchised without representation are the victims.
Maybe AOC will learn from that spectacular sell out she did at the Nth hour, and will learn from her mistakes.
Both her and Sanders said to vote for the one that could be persuaded to come further left, and you’re throwing her under the bus? Wow, it’s everyone’s fault. Jefferson was right.
Yes, that is the spectacular selling out to a right wing fascist that disenfranchised left wing voters that I was referencing.
I see you have taken this loss, this spectacular failure of your making, and you are pausing to learn from it. /s
They said “blue MAGA.” Not worth engaging.
Can you or anyone else tell me what “blue MAGA” is?
Edit: It sounds like the term means centrist/center-right Democrats who want to uphold the status quo. How is that “MAGA” of any flavor? I thought the MAGA movement was just a bunch of Christofascists.
I usually don’t use the term because it makes me sound like a tankie, but when I say blueMAGA it’s to describe the “hold your nose and vote Harris you fucking donkey” condescending pricks who that they’re both entitled to shut down all criticism of their preferred candidate and actually convincing anyone to vote by doing it. You know, the people now trying to convince themselves Harris only lost because Americans are sexist and racist and not at all because Harris’s campaign fucking sucked. How to tell: They’ll call anyone who criticizes Harris (they still do it but less often than before the election) MAGA, a Russian bot or a troll and seem convinced everyone who cares about Palestine is/was part of a Russian conspiracy to get Trump elected.
The real victims (with a say/vote) are the Americans who voted for Harris. The people who voted for Trump and those who abstained from voting actively and passively chose what’s coming.
You actively sought loss, despite all warning, caught in a fascist riptide, again, you didnt listen and lost, but you are the victim.
Give me a break.
The problem isn’t that America voted for this. Only 21% of the country voted for Trump.
The problem is that America didn’t vote at all.
That only makes them more blameworthy, not less.
Unless we understand why they didn’t vote it’s just going to keep happening
It’s your right to point fingers and blame people, but if you want to get them to vote and bring them over to your side, that is historically not been the best motivator.
I think there’s truth to this. The Democratic party has to engage with people in good faith and learn what it’s important for them and why they voted the way they did.
I think most didn’t vote because they are apathetic, ill-informed morons with the attention span of a gnat. They don’t understand inflation, tariffs, deflation, international relations, trade, renewable energy, oil production, gas prices, vaccines, healthcare, or much of anything else. They also don’t care to learn about how anything works. It’s not like the last chapter of the history book on the United States is going to blame the pro-democracy candidate for not doing enough to appeal to a public that was too lazy to continue living in a democracy. They have access to more educational resources than any humans in history and they just ignore it.
If that’s the case then we are well and truly fucked because that’s not changing without significant education investment, and Trump is going to get rid of the Department of Education.
I believe we are well and truly fucked.
Education and critical thinking is lacking in the majority of the electorate and the trend is that we elect leaders that reinforce that instead of mitigate it. Defunding education doesn’t improve this situation, and I feel we hit a tipping point where we might not be able to get these skills back in the curriculum going forward.
This time, the election wasn’t about dems or reps, it was about democracy or fascism. If you didn’t vote, means you are ok with fascism.
Yes, it’s true that this election was about democracy vs fascism, but the election result tells us that it’s possible to see the election from other angles where it’s about other things. I think the Democratic party has to view the election from those angles, see what those things are, and take that to heart.