• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Reminder to anyone who still smokes: you smell like shit 100% to anyone you interact with.

    And any place you still smoke in, whether your car or home, also smells like shit.

    And to delivery drivers who smoke, the packages you deliver smell like shit, too!

    • nepenthes@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Positive reinforcement works better for helping people quit :(

      Especially when quitting smoking tanks a person’s dopamine levels. It takes weeks for the body to re-regulate production.

      To anyone reading this who has quit/is quitting: congratulations! It’s tough, you have shown a force of willpower and should be proud of yourself.

      Love, a fellow Canadian.

      Edit:

      As with other forms of punishment, aversive methods are generally less effective than positive approaches. It is more important to reward and praise desirable behaviors than to react negatively to unwanted ones. Encouraging a person’s ability to enjoy self-affirmation and self-pride will help them internalize healthy attributes and to become a person deserving of admiration…Shame doesn’t motivate prosocial behaviors; it fuels social withdrawal and low self-esteem.

      Source: took some psych courses
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      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/longing-nostalgia/201705/why-shaming-doesnt-work

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        4 months ago

        I know intellectually that’s true but in my cursed heart I really don’t want to be nice to people who are, like, barely approaching a reasonable standard of behavior. Not just with smoking. Like, littering, taking up too much space on the subway, whatever.

        It’s just frustrating how everyone (including me some of the time, I’m sure) is just like an emotionally fragile toddler. Except if you’re not nice to them, they might shoot you.

        edit: Thinking about it, my parents were always like “You don’t get rewarded for doing what’s expected of you”, so that’s probably why rewarding someone for doing the basics feels insane to me.

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          4 months ago

          You don’t get rewarded for doing what’s expected of you

          My parents said the same thing over 15 years ago, but this kind of shit just isn’t true. When you own your home or business, doing what’s expected of you results in your investments retaining or even increasing their value. That’s why the owner works 12 hours a day, and the homeowner fixes the broken windows.

          When you’re just living or working somewhere but you don’t have a stake in it, what do you actually get out of your efforts? Communities of all types, big and small, are held together by the stake we have in them. If people have no stake, they have no reason to care. This is why you pay employees, and this is why parents should thank their kids for doing the damn chores.

          Problem is so many people believe that you don’t deserve thanks for “doing what’s expected” while also refusing to allow young people the opportunity to become invested in their communities. This is why the social contract is destroyed and no one cares anymore. Why should they? The youth will never get to be part of their community the way we are. They will never benefit from it the way we do… Unless things change.

      • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de
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        4 months ago

        Positive reinforcement is the act of adding either a reward for good behavour or a punishment for bad behavior.

        It seems like both of you are doing that.