• MajorHavoc@programming.dev
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          I know we’re joking about how obnoxious we are when we make this recommendation… But it’s also true. Linux problems are much more likely to be solveable. The proprietary “no serviceable parts within” boxes are much rarer.

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            It’s a bit of both. I agreeey that Linux problems are actually solvable, but we’re also willing to put up with a lot more because of that. (Admittedly, Window’s enshitification is helping with the last part)

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              Yeah, the frequency of bullshit problems and just having to accept losing features and gaining advertisements has reached a point of absolute absurdity, it almost feels intentional at this point like they’re trying to see how far they can push people before they’ll leave

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            I will say however, I’ve encountered a few things that were unsolvable because I wasn’t a professional coder with tons of time on my hands. Unfortunately the only solutions were “attempt workarounds” and “wait. :(”

            But at least in that case:

            • You can generally narrow down this is the case vs. your own config issues.
            • Somebody else has the same problem.
            • Barring all that, you can bug report!

            I run Tumbleweed though, sometimes things happen. (But it’s still shockingly stable!)

            I wouldn’t expect people running Mint or Debian to face this nearly as much.

            The particular most recent instance I had:

            All my KDE services were crash-restarting on startup because QT didn’t like my drawing tablet or something. Truly bizarre. Bug reporting lead to resolution!

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              I will say however, I’ve encountered a few things that were unsolvable because I wasn’t a professional coder with tons of time on my hands.

              Oh, yeah. That’s still true. I’ve hit those as well.

              Though at least with open source stuff, I usually find the issue solved when I try again a year or so later. (Maybe not how I would have solved it, but there’s typically at least more and better options.)

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          Unironically why I switched my parents to Linux - they don’t touch any important settings so usually the only problems are when they get a new popup / prompt they’ve never seen, which ofc happens a lot more on windows especially when they decide to push some new thing or decide that they want to convince people to enable something new or change a setting that they want people to use.

          I also love that if they call me I can just ssh in over tailscale and do whatever needs doing.

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            YES. I think Windows tries to keep computing “simple” while simultaneously training poor expectations and habits into its users.

            “Never listen to these big scary error messages! It’s a scam!” (But also forces full-screen ads and “recommendations” for things to modify your system)

            It’s very “It’s only okay when we do it.”

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      Funny you say that I saw someone on the bus the other day with a terrible KDE theme.

      It looked kind of like Windows 11 but in the worse possible ways. They managed to get the panel to look like Windows 11 but they were using the wrong icons and the wrong Window decorations.