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      not too late to get outside investment and spin up a hardware design group, build out some manufacturing. i mean, there’s need for it now.

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        This is some gamble to make with unclear payoff. It costs billions of dollars to get the manufacturing contracts, hire the engineers, and obtain the procurement contracts. Not to mention the years of effort it would take. Unless you spend decades growing your own talent, the only way you’re going to be able to attract the talent needed to build this project is by poaching them from Apple, Intel, Nvidia, and Huawei by doubling their salaries. And by buying out their non-compete agreements or hiring the best lawyers in the world. You’re betting on two facts to remain true:

        1. That the issue of avoiding American products will even be salient in three to four years’ time. By that time it’s pretty likely that America has either taken over the word or been reduced to rubble. Trump will either be god-emperor of mankind or leaving office a broken, defeated man (or perhaps in a coffin before that—the man eats more Mcdonald’s than can be good for him, especially at his advanced age)
        2. That people care enough about this to pay double the price of an American-made cell phone.
        3. That your customers don’t count the fact that their phones were made mostly by American or Chinese engineers against you. America attracted all the best tech talent in the world with high salaries and China basically brute forced it with sheer numbers.

        Number 2 is really the problem here. Even if you could get a competitive cell phone to market literally tomorrow, it’d have to cost twice as much as an iPhone and four times the price of the latest Huawei or Xiaomi model. While customers are more than happy to pay $6 for Quebec maple syrup so they can avoid $3 Vermont syrup, the proposition of paying $3,000 for a Canadian cell phone versus $1,500 for an iPhone is a much more difficult one to accept. And one that not many people are likely to be able to afford.

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      Lets start poaching America Tech and knowledge workers to immigrat to Canada, could be a excellent opportunity especially with all the cuts and "efficiency restructuring "

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    Blackberry designs the OS, Nokia designs the phone, which can only be described as “Indestructable enough to survive an atomic blast”.

    Seriously. 5000 years from now they’re going to remember humans as a species that built now crumbled buildings, and early 2000s cell phones which are still in great shape in the year 5025.

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      @lost_my_mind@lemmy.world hate to break it to you, but Nokia sold their brand to HMD Global, and their new phones are … lacking in the indestructibility department. They are hefty though, I will say.

      I owned two of them, and I got the ones that worked well. Some of the QC was wonky too.

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    If Microsoft and Windows phone couldn’t do it, I have my doubts. And Windows phone 7/8 was actually a good product.

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    Nah they’re a software company now. They are not the giant they were in the past.

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    Didn’t everyone abandon them when RIM kept giving away their encryption keys to any dictator that sent them a request?

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    I think they sold the rights to a Blackberry phone to Chinese company, TCL or Foxconn I think. They advertised a phone, but it was never made.

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    They had the whole market and fucked it up by ignoring all of us beta testers who were telling them the firmware was crap (because it has been ignored for years).

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    The Blackberry Passport was the best smartphone I ever used:

    • Blackberry Hub let you manage texts, emails, whatsapp/messaging apps, and facebook/social media messages all from the same app, accessible at any time by swiping from the left side of the screen

    • You could sideload and run Android apps for anything that didnt have a Blackberry native app

    • The physical keyboard was also a touchpad

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    Except they were not competing. That was the problem.

    Also Canada really isn’t the big of a country population wise and even in the US there really isn’t any chip manufacturing. All “American” phones are made in Taiwan.

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    It won’t happen, but you have no idea how fast I would produce my credit card if it did.

    In the meantime I’m looking to replace my iPhone with a Fairphone.

    I just miss that crackberry keyboard.

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    Would much rather see Sidekick make a return. People that like BlackBerry are the same ones that love paying for Windows. They just like to burn money.