• Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
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      If you believe in eternal torture or happiness after death, basically anything is justifiable here on Earth to bring someone to your side or prevent them from “falling” to something that would land them in the bad place. In fact it’s not just justifiable but a moral imperative if you believe you can save someone an infinite amount of suffering even if you cause temporary suffering now.

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        If someone believes in a god that implements eternal torture, they believe in a god everyone should despise, and should at least be honest about that part. Don’t call it love, call it fear and terror.

      • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world
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        The idea of a life after death where an idyllic eternal life can be simply purchased with belief demeans and devalues this life. You will never convince me that someone believing such things would be more moral and ethical than someone who believes that this life is all we get. I would argue that such belief is a cornerstone to a lack of ethics and morals because it implies nothing in this life really matters.

        • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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          It doesn’t imply that nothing in this life really matters. It implies that belief and living a life following the moral code outlined in the respective book and interpreted by the respective religious authorities is really important. That’s the whole ruse and why religion like this works tremendously in achieving its goals.

        • Gympie_Gympie_pie@sh.itjust.works
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          If the only reason you don’t harm others is so that you’ll get a place in paradise, you are not a moral or ethical person, you are a an egotistical hypocrite and a fake “good person”. Non-religious people who don’t harm others simply because they respect them and just don’t want to harm them, are the truly moral ones.