• Mike@awful.systems
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    Anthony Levandowski (the Waymo guy) on the robot cabs: "You’re putting the power back into the people’s hands, where a small business owner could have, you know, a fleet of 10 cars or 20 cars that they run themselves as their business. It’s a great model for the future where it’s lots of mom and pops, rather than one mega corp that does that.”

    Because that is EXACTLY what will happen and it will absolutely NOT be the case that megacorps will simply do exactly what megacorps do and flood cities with robotaxis running at a loss in order to control the market and then jack up prices. No siree, it’ll be all Mom and Pop’s Friendly Robotaxi Company.

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      Rejoice, peon! For you have been BLESSED. Our RNG has deemed you are WORTHY to LEASE the chariot of your LORD, the WYMH McUltra Car.

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      And even if that were true … There’s nothing virtuous about small businesses and I’m just aghast at this inane petit bourgeois vision for the future instead of, you know, actual public infrastructure.

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    I liked in his presentation how he mentioned how bad LA traffic was and how it takes hours to cross the city, then didn’t mention how all these robo taxis, if they ever become a thing, would just exacerbate the problem.

    “Oh but while you wait in the deadlock traffic you can be on your phone instead of paying attention and stressing out” yeah, but I can also already do that on a bus / train and those actually help to alleviate traffic.

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    I’m convinced he pronounced robovan the way he did because he was advised on the social media engagement technique of dropping deliberate mistakes in your videos

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      it feels so much like he’s reaching for… something? from nerd culture and missing the mark so much it’s unrecognizable. my brain went to the old RedLetterMedia review where they kept pronouncing “geteven” as one word, but like… musk, buddy, you’re the one who insisted on naming it a robovan, this doesn’t work

      and speaking of reaching for nerd culture and missing, “your own personal R2D2 C-3PO” is exactly how my mom would describe a robot after a bit too much wine, and it’s really embarrassing it’s this easy to pander to nerds

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        it feels so much like he’s reaching for… something? from nerd culture and missing the mark so much it’s unrecognizable.

        so much this when he said the “future should look like the future” and this art deco style roach rolls out

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          my first thought on seeing the robovan was that I better make sure I got all the plasmids I needed cause when I enter that Bioshock’s definitely doing a level transition I can’t come back from

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    also why does he think people will take on his “wacky” pronunciation of “Robovan” to rhyme with “gas oven”? I generally leave actually listening to Musk’s live ramblings to the professionals but damn, this guy is a terrible public speaker. Has his schtick always consisted mostly of awkward pauses and ers and ums or is this a new thing?

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      Has his schtick always consisted mostly of awkward pauses and ers and ums or is this a new thing?

      Yes that always was his thing. Some people rationalize it to themselves by going ‘he is such a genius his head has so many ideas he struggles to express them’. I think he might have adhd.

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        I think he might have adhd.

        Oh no, I don’t think we’re ready for him to start mythologizing autism + ADHD.

        Watching my therapist pull up Musk facts on his phone for 40 minutes going “bro check this out you’re just like him frfr” the moment he learned I was autistic was enough for me. Please god don’t let musk start talking about hyperfocusing.

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          I think he’s outright claimed it, but tbh fuck that noise. whether he does or doesn’t is of no importance as pertains his continued choice to be a lying abusive extractivist fash-enabling piece of shit

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            I’m friends with people who used to be gigantic musk fans (and they’ve fortunately gone in the opposite direction since then), and the vocal tics are absolutely something they mythologized — I vividly remember one of them cooing over how adorable his stutter is during the original cybertruck/neuralink announcement way back, which they of course insisted we watch live

            and as someone who’s struggled with mild to severe vocal tics and other difficulties verbally communicating off and on for decades: I’m not an expert, but it’s real fucking weird he can turn the tics off when he needs to for an interaction. for example, during the Twitter space when an ex-Twitter engineer surprised him and called him out for making shit up about Twitter’s infrastructure, he instantly went from “shy mess” to “the worst executive you’ve ever met is trying to get you fired” — all steel, no stutter, an entirely different persona designed to make musk feel like he won that interaction. and if I were in that spot (and thank fuck I never will be that big an asshole), I’d be a fucking mess — that kind of stress makes me stutter, fuck up my phrasing, and talk in weird loops right away. I get a lot less confident as my brain overanalyzes what I’m saying.

            and again everyone’s different and I’m not an expert, but it’s real weird the guy’s pattern is the exact opposite of myself and essentially everyone else I know who struggle with speaking under pressure. to be honest, I’m fairly certain the richest boy in the world can afford a vocal coach — and I’m also convinced he paid that vocal coach to sound like more of an adorable, vulnerable, relatable nerd

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              Re coaching. It is amazing how he went from young rich need to whatever he is now (not sure if the stories I heard about him wearing bronzer at the trump rally are true) vs bezos who went from rich young nerd to lex luthor lookalike. Or even Zuckerberg who after all the alien jokes prob got help and now looks like a normal person.

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          He claims he has autism, but because his first wife left him after she got her adhd meds he hates adhd meds. So dont worry about him turning into an adhd high functioning example.

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    I know im a big nerd but "Musk also presented the Optimus robot, your plastic pal who’s fun to be with — “your own personal R2-D2, C-3PO!”.

    Why would I need an astromech droid Musk? At least a GNK droid provides power. Stupid sexy gonk droid.

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            you know, humidity control is one of the few parts of my house that isn’t controlled by a handbuilt Linux system I’ve fastened to the wall

            …so what I’m saying is now I’m writing one in nix, yes

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    Coming soon*: the thing we already said was coming soon, only worse in every way! No steering wheel! No charging port! One seat for you and one seat for your faceless robot “friend”!

    Wait wait where are you going investors?! We have also designed a worse bus!

    *

    Certain statements in this presentation, including, but not limited to, statements relating to the development, strategy, ramp, production and capacity, demand and market growth, cost, pricing and profitability, investment, deliveries, deployment, availability and other features and improvements and timing of existing and future Tesla products and services; statements regarding operating margin, operating profits, spending and liquidity; and statements regarding expansion, improvements and/or ramp and related timing at our factories are “forward-looking statements” within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform of 1995. Forward-looking statements are based on assumptions with respect to the future, are based on management’s current expectations, involve certain risks and uncertainties, and are not guarantees. Future results may differ materially from those expressed in any forward-looking statement. The following important factors, without limitation, could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements: the risk of delays in launching and or manufacturing our products, services, and features cost-effectively; our ability to build and/or grow our products and services, sales, delivery, installation, servicing and charging capabilities and effectively manage this growth; consumers’ demand for products and services based on artificial intelligence, robotics and automation, electric vehicles, and ride-hailing services generally and our vehicles and services specifically, as well as our ability to successfully and timely develop, introduce, and scale such products and services; the ability of suppliers to deliver components according to schedules, prices, quality and volumes acceptable to us, and our ability to manage such components effectively; any issues with lithium-ion cells or other components manufactured at our factories; our ability to ramp our factories in accordance with our plans; our ability to procure supply of battery cells, including through our own manufacturing; risks relating to international expansion; any failures by Tesla products to perform as expected or if product recalls occur; the risk of product liability claims; competition in the automotive, transportation, and energy product and services markets; our ability to maintain public credibility and confidence in our long-term business prospects; our ability to manage risks relating to our various product financing programs; the status of government and economic incentives for electric vehicles and energy products; our ability to attract, hire and retain key employees and qualified personnel; our ability to maintain the security of our information and production and product systems; our compliance with various regulations and laws applicable to our operations and products, which may evolve from time to time; risks relating to our indebtedness and financing strategies; and adverse foreign exchange movements. More information on potential factors that could affect our financial results is included from time to time in our Securities and Exchange Commission filing and reports, including the risks identified under the section captions “Risk Factors” in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on January 26, 2024 and subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Tesla disclaims any obligation to update information contained in these forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

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      That disclaimer looks hilariously terrible, but it’s pretty standard. For all his bluster about the SEC, Musk speaks securities law compliant hype fluently. Listen closely and you’ll notice all his future hype statements are carefully hedged and thoroughly fall within the bounds of “forward looking statement”.

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      I mean as long as all the passengers can escape from the flames in time and the manufacturer didn’t do something silly like use “bulletproof” glass for the windshields or make the regular door handles inoperable without power. Haha but surely no one would design a car that way!