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          I meant is it like the Sacagawea coins in the US or more like the mint runs they do?

          Sacagawea dollar coin was put into general circulation, and could be obtained at any US bank. But everyone thought they were cool, so people would almost never spend them. While a mint run costs more than the face dollar value of the coin.

          It’s unfortunate too because coins last way longer than bills, but they have never been successful at getting people to spend them in the US.

          I would love to see 1, 2 and $5 coins being used… but probably will never happen here.

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    It’s the US, we put presidents and Founding Fathers on our bills. Harriet Tubman is neither, so of course we’re not putting her on the twenty.

    Instead we should compromise with historical precedent and put Obama on the twenty - he’s both a president and a black historical figure and he’ll piss off the people pissed off by the idea of Tubman on the twenty even more. It’s a win all around!

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      Anyone on the $20 would be better than Andrew “Trail of Tears” Jackson. The dude also caused the deepest, by percentage not dollar amount, and longest depression in US history by paying off the national debt.

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        Hey, franklin pierce also sucked pretty hard. He didnt actually do anything, which is the problem. His lack of action dropped us right into the civil war iirc

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          Ehh he did try to prevent it, it’s just that he did everything wrong. It’s Buchanan that didn’t do shit and fucked the country.

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            Buchanan was a slavery sympathizer who thought the secession was legal. There was a long historical debate leading up to the civil war on if a state could secede since states have to ratify the US constitution and so could possibly deratify and go their own way.

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        It wasn’t paying off the debt that caused the depression, that’s deliberate misinformation to make you think debt is good, take out a lifestyle loan, don’t think about it! What’s a forever war or two paid paid for on credit, anyways?

        What caused the depression was how he paid off the debt, namely by crashing the real estate market selling off stolen native land for cheap.

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          Government debt is in no way comparable to personal debt. You are spreading misconceptions and misunderstanding of high finance, if not outright lies.

          Paying off all American debt is directly what caused the depression, since we were founded as a nation of traders. Pay off all the debt, and we don’t have any currency that is useful to other countries, and all our trade agreements died up.

          Now how much debt is too much for the US to carry, is another discussion altogether

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            Okay buddy, keep on sucking on that hyperinflation and asking daddy for more👍

            It’s not like the same people telling you debt is good are out to “Starve the Beast” or America doesn’t have comparatively more debt than it ended Fucking World War 2 with.

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              The hyperinflation that has been going on in Japan for the last 30 years while they have had the money hose on? Oh, wait that’s right. They’re barely staying off deflation. Or maybe there was some hyperinflation here in the US? No? Not since the Great Depression? Huh. Strange that.

              You’re just showing that you know nothing about either modern economics or monetary theory.

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                Bruh, you’re bare assed trying to compare Jacksonian policy to modern deficit spending, like they weren’t on the GOLD FUCKING STANDARD, lmao.

                Dudes with one college econ class acting like experts, I swear.

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                  Historically the US has been loath to use our gold stockpiles to buy anything. Even when we were on the gold standard, we didn’t trade with it. It is historical fact that our trade agreements collapsed and that caused the longest and deepest depression in US history.

                  Just because you happen to be fiscally conservative, doesn’t mean that is a good way to run a government, and history has shown this time and again. Conservatives wreck the economy, liberals attempt to fix it, and the one time in history that we started to look at progressive policy, in 2020, it caused such a massive economic surplus that the rich freaked out and imposed artificial austerity.

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        I’ll get flamed for this but even trump would be better than Jackson.

        The only one who I can think of that’d be as bad is Bush Jr.

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      Salmon P. Chase was neither a president nor a founding father yet he was on a bill. Though he was qualified in that he served as a white man for, I believe, his whole life.

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        He put “in god we trust” on the money.

        That’s why he’s on a bill.

        Granted it’s the 10k note and there’s kind of an inverse relationship with value of note to respect of person.

        Which is why Washington is on the 1 dollar note and Hamilton is on the 10.

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          Thats not even a good thing though. And why not put other historical figures on money? Would it be so objectionable to out MLK Jr or General Sherman on money?

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            They only reason Tubmam isn’t on the $10 bill right now is because of the musical changing the fact no one gave a shit about Alexander Hamilton and didn’t care he was or wasn’t on money to him suddenly being a massively well known founding father with several massive showtunes explaining his life.

            The plan was seriously already in place and nearly happened before the musical.

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      That’s not a rule. It’s just what’s been done before. There is no rule that we can’t have Harriet Tubman on a bill. The universe will not end if we tell the traditionalists they are welcome to get in a time machine if they want to live in the past.

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      I appreciate the note about putting Obama on the bill, but the first sentence is incorrect. 😅

      The $10 (Alexander Hamilton) and $100 (Ben Franklin) do not feature presidents.

      Edit: welp if you Lemmy at 5 a.m then you might not be able to read well

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      You are going to be even more mad to learn that they were basically impossible to get for a while cos someone stole a bunch of them

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      My son just called BS on the picture. Is there a reliable place to fact check this?

      I’m not googling today, I’m pissed with my life. Yep I’ll be fine tomorrow, just now I’m not, thx for caring, moving on.

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        It’s just a limited edition coin we make a bunch of different ones, but in low quantities

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          Doesn’t this cause a lot of confusion on whether it’s counterfeit money or not?

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              Canada has used dozens or even hundreds of impression on their coins. Coloured features, holograms, bimetalic, scratch and snuff, just anything.

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                Yeah we do so many variations it’s almost more rare to see a non special edition coin lol

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            The US also makes tons of limited edition collectible quarters and dollar coins. Buying them costs way more than face value so they never end up in circulation. Not even sure if they actually are legal tender.

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        It’s real. You could get them from the Australian Post.

        I’m not googling today, I’m pissed with my life. Yep I’ll be fine tomorrow, just now I’m not, thx for caring, moving on.

        Hope you feel better, dude! No idea what’s making you feel bad, but life is pretty shitty right now, it’s understandable to feel like garbage.

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          Predictably better today, had to set some limits on an unhealthy behavior (not mine) that has been going on for months. Thx for caring.

          So do I walk in any post office and ask for it? Is that common currency or those gold plated stuff?

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            Unfortunately you can’t get them anymore. You gotta get them from eBay or something. They were collectable coins from what I read. I’m actually in the US, but I woulda bought a set and had them shipped here if they were still selling them.

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    …do other countries not have just random images on their coins because the government went “fuck it, why not”?

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    This isn’t changing the picture though - this is our new currency, the ‘dollarbuck’.
    Current exchange rate is 1AUD = 1 Dollarbuck

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    The US doesn’t feature Harriet Tubman on the $20 because it’s full up with racist, slavery-denying fools who still have the mindset of an Andrew Jackson voter and would vote a wheel of racist cheese into the office of president over an eminently qualified black woman any day of any week.

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      Ironically, Andrew Jackson was reviled at the time. Most Americans were shocked that he got elected, and I’m unsure if he or Woodrow Wilson did more damage to the country.

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        Hoover, (Depression Austerity),and Truman, (Sent first troops to Vietnam), are up there too.

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          I would put Nuking Hiroshima and Nagisaki on the list of Truman issues as well.

          At the very least Nagisaki. One could argue that the first bomb was necessary after we saw how hard the Japanese fought on Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Japan had already surrendered after Hiroshima, and the only condition they asked was that The Emperor not have to step down. I hindsight I don’t think that would have been an issue as he apparently wasn’t the driving force behind the war.

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            For the world and Japan certainly. But as things that affected Americans, those advisors were far worse.

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    Wait wait wait… are you saying you don’t have any commemorative coins in the USA?! Holy shit I never realised! We have special coins all the time in Europe. My kids absolutely love when they find a special 2€ coin with some cool engraving on it.
    How sad! You could have so many, too! By default each country in the Euro zone has its own heads, while tails are always the same. Easy peasy!

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      No we do have commemorative $1 coins, Sacagawea had one and they’re fairly common change from vending machines. There’s an older Susan B Anthony. Harriet Tubman had one but I’ve never seen it.

      There was a set of quarters where the back was related to each state.

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    Every time I see a picture of these I immediately hear the girls saying “Dollarbucks!” In my head.