Sorry kids, “ethical consumption” isn’t part of the compensation package for my work.
You don’t get an ethical banana on Wednesdays?
They can’t afford to give me a $1 raise; how could they afford a $10 banana?
Any store with ethics is made up anyway. Capitalism has been “optimizing” out ethics since inception. Not to say ethical examples don’t exist just that they don’t last.
Capitalism bad on lemmy of course…
But Capitalism doesn’t inherently optimize out ethics. It just tries to optimize out anything that gets in the way of profit.
When being ethical is profitable, companies will be ethical. Many companies are maximizing profits by making ethical decisions solely because doing so keeps their customers purchasing their products instead of their competitors’ products.
I’d argue that this is a newer feature of Capitalism as well. So it’s accidentally optimizing IN more ethics when compared to 100 years ago.
I think it’s more accurate to say that Capitalism is indifferent to ethics rather than to say Capitalism optimizes it out.
To me that’s a different road to the same answer because it’s almost always advantageous to be unethical, see the correlation between sociopathic tendencies and Fortune 500 company CEOs.
That’s why I differentiate between publicly traded and privately owned companies. In the former, if the CEO’s ethics are stopping profits, they get kicked out. In the latter, if the CEO/owner happens to be a nice guy, it can have an impact on the company as a whole.
I’m more talking about the ethics of the consumers being factored into the profit equation, which has a very real impact on today’s corporate profits.
Not the CEO. Those guys are sociopaths.
There’s a difference between truly ethical shopping and shopping to pose. It is also a lot cheaper to eat well than most people think. Back in 2018 I switched to a whole food plant based diet after major heart surgery. Whole food plant based means no animal products (including honey), no salt, no oil, no sugar, and no processed foods. My grocery bill is now a fraction of what it once was, but I did need to start cooking and baking my own food from scratch. I normally prep on Sunday for the week.
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The parent commenter must be eating something like canned nuts or some other salted snack. You don’t need very much salt to survive so I could imagine that they wouldn’t die if they ate some of that on a regular basis.
The idea that salt, the oldest seasoning known to mankind, produced by evaporating seawater, is not “natural” or must be excluded in a plant-based diet is wild.
The original commenter had a major heart episode, then I’m not surprised they’d be switching to a low-sodium diet, however. Cheap, highly-processed foods are laden with sodium. I am needing to switch to a similar diet as well, I just haven’t figured out recipes that I like that are cheap and simple to cook at home.
I don’t buy or use any salt.
did need to start cooking and baking my own food from scratch.
In other words you substitute the resource you can get more of (money), for the resource you can’t get more of (time).
Not trying to be an ass. I much prefer cooking from scratch as well just I have the luxury of doing this and for most people they do not have it.
Everyone has a few spare hours once a week to meal prep. Finding the time is not an issue. Finding the motivation after you’ve worked your ass off all week and all you want to do is chill is the real struggle.
It isn’t that you don’t have time it is you don’t have a block of time. Want to make a loaf of bread? Cool. Spend at minimum 6 hours where you have to do stuff for random 15 minute intervals. Kinda hard to schedule that around work and kids. Want to make some jam with your bread? There is a solid hour plus cleanup for another 30 minutes.
Now you will say get a breadmaker. Ok wonderful I now have one more appliance in my home one more thing to think about. One more thing to find a place for.
Kids have to take a bath at a certain time, brush their teeth at a certain time, do their homework at a certain time, dishes have to be done at a certain time. Basically I am a project manager and that doesn’t include 4 hours randomly where I can sneak in some French Cuisine. And I have it easy! I know people who have more kids, less money, or are single parents.
I am firmly in the camp of make it yourself. Cooking is an art and skill. You will save money and it’s better for your health. I am also very much aware that the little bit I can do is a luxury my wealth level lets me do and don’t judge anyone who can’t.
Whole food plant based means no animal products (including honey), no salt, no oil, no sugar, and no processed foods.
I thought it meant that you had to eat the whole plant.
For example if you wanted an apple, you had to uproot the tree, gather all the apples, get all the leaves (salad!), all the branches (you can chop them up as a replacement for breakfast cereal —you can pour the sap on it—), great source of fibre too), the roots (blend them for a refreshing and nutritious mid-afternoon snack, they’re full of electrolytes!).
Also you should really replace your old oil diet with vegetable oil, even if you’re from the US and it’s frowned upon. It’s compatible with your beliefs and probably much tastier. Most of your body is made from fats.
Whole food just means “unprocessed”. For example, rather than eating olive oil, which is an extract of olives, I eat olives. Rather than eating peanut butter which has all sorts of additives, I eat ground (aka buttered) peanuts. I sweeten with date syrup (blended dates and water). Etc.
I can see you’re from the US.
Here when you get olive oil, it’s olive oil. When you get peanut butter, it’s crunched up peanuts (maybe with a bit of salt).
Having bought foodstuffs in your country, I kind of understand how people get fed up with the whole thing.
The olive oil I buy is 100%. I have never even heard of an olive oil that is sold cut. And every single time I bought it was in the US.
Last time I was in the US, I couldn’t find any olive oil. Every bottle said “olive oil” and in microscopic characters underneath “among many other oils”. This would be insanely illegal on the other side of the Atlantic.
Yeah strong doubt on this. I want to see labels from the trip. Use olive oil all the time and would know.
Well, that was in Hoboken. Maybe they’re exempt from the global US olive oil market.
The supermarket in the Pacific Northwest, Winco Foods, is employee-owned. I like that philosophy.
Not certain if employee-owned means 90% owned by one guy. But prices are low and I’d choose them over giving money to the Walmart family any day.
Aw, Marge, you can always afford Dollar Tree. Their philosophy is that everything is a dollar!
Or multiples of a dollar. Which is the same thing anyway.
